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[–] Ravenfreak@discuss.online 9 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I never liked Windows 10, I had way too many issues with it. However, so many companies rely on old versions of Windows and it takes them years to upgrade to the latest version. The machines I use at work still have Windows 10 installed because the software we rely on isn't compatible with Windows 11 yet. This whole "trade in your old PC for a new one" is ridiculous. Thankfully there's many Linux distros that work with older hardware so you don't need Windows!

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

When management doesn’t want to upgrade from XP because it still works

[–] sfu@lemm.ee 19 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

I'm not using windows, but apple does the same thing. My OS is 9 versions old because they won't let me upgrade without buying a new computer.

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 12 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] sfu@lemm.ee 3 points 18 hours ago

I've seen similar options, but haven't heard of this one. Looks like my 17 yr old comp might be compatible. I wonder how compatible though, since most of my USB ports already don't work with my supported OS.

Anyway, thanks, I'll look more into it.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

That's apple wanting to control their closed hardware ecosystem. Windows is built to run on a significantly wider range of hardware, so isn't really comparable in that way.

[–] espentan@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago

True, microsoft is a wehrmacht nazi soldier where as apple is full on gestapo.

[–] sfu@lemm.ee 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I guess that's true. But both are acting everyone just has money to waste.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Well, for people that buy into Apple, there's a higher chance that's the case 😅

[–] aks69cw@feddit.nl 22 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

Always wandering why it isn' t possible for Microsoft to maintain their version and update all along. Linux can do it, Android can do it. I' m not sure about Apple. I switched to Linux years ago and I'm still most satisfied about my choice. My current laptop is from 2009 and can still go on for years. That is what you call sustainability

[–] suaroof@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Sustainable products are not profitable products. Look at what happened to Tupperware.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

If there's no IP barrier, the products can come back when the demand is back.

Which is one of the reasons I'm against copyright and of course reverse-engineering and modding and emulation being legally suppressed.

Say, one can easily understand how 90s' era of good old software and hardware ended. Modern business models there are more profitable. But those models lead to degeneracy, and they wouldn't be competitive if the old things were competitive for longer, and the old things would be if not for copyright. More paths is always better.

[–] lemmysarius@feddit.org 11 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

But then the People wouldnt pay for it over and over again?

People are way less willing to pay for updates than for whole new versions.

Apple and companies using Android are selling hardware, not software like Microsoft.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago

They make most of their money from pro licenses and telemety data anyway, I'm sure.

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[–] Weirdfish@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Android doesnt, my S8 can no longer be updated and many apps are beginning to no be supported. I love this phone, all the new ones are way too big.

[–] gens@programming.dev 4 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Lineageos. I'm like 1 android version behind latest on s9.

Also it depends on the chip maker and the phone maker. Fairphone will get the latest for like a decade..

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 25 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (3 children)

Hah. Good luck trying to make me dispose of the computer I built almost a decade ago and that I just upgraded. Neither my laptops nor my phones have outlived this baby.

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[–] Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago

Linux/BSD blah blah blah

[–] LiamTheBox@lemmy.ml 15 points 22 hours ago

Actually you can get the IoT Enterprise LTSC here and do your windows thing until 2032

https://massgrave.dev/windows_ltsc_links

[–] Legom7@lemmy.world 15 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

How much could a new PC be Michael, $10?

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[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 11 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Trade in to whom, to Linux users?.. Actually a good idea, not sure MS understood which almost logically complete advice they gave.

[–] Ickabod@lemm.ee 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Trading in a PC.... in 2025? To who? Where? What time period, even? They must be thinking it's still 1985, and you can trade in your IBM Compatible to your nearest IBM Distributor.

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[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Users to microsoft: "You're creating a huge pile of garbage out of perfectly fine devices because of unneeded hardware requirement"

microsoft: "It's ok, just buy a new one"

Rarely have a message gone through so bad.

[–] const_void@lemmy.ml 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Can you believe this company has a Chief Sustainability Officer? What the fuck do they do all day?

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

Yell at the wind

[–] Bristingr@lemm.ee 9 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Funny because people still use Windows 7 in large quantities across the world.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 4 points 20 hours ago

Windows 7 is such a nice user experience today, if you use it in 2025 you really get an idea of how far windows has fallen off.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 1 points 13 hours ago

I will take your windows 10 PC and give you a keychain made of DDR2 RAM in trade.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 57 points 1 day ago (3 children)

If you are living on the coast and the water is rising due to climate change, just sell your house and move.

[–] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Sell their houses to who, Ben? Fucking Aquaman?!

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[–] dan00@lemm.ee 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Linux users tell Microsoft to just get over it, dump your parasitic software and start over, because how hard can it be?

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 hours ago

As someone who did exactly this a year and a half or so ago: so much easier than you think.

[–] Gremour@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

As hard as plugging in a USB with OS and follow instructions.

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[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

W10 wouldn't get past the pin screen (type pin, then black screen forever, nothing else), so I used a live boot disk of fedora to rescue my files (turns out you can just bypass windows pins and mount the drive), then installed fedora on my old toshiba satellite and never looked back. Few years in I upgraded with linux in mind and now am cruising with a Framework 16. No regrets.

Join us! Cast off your shackles! Microsoft has no power over you beyond what you willingly give them!

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Can MS be sued by EU for this? There was the thing with USB-C, because E-waste, and now the most used Desktop-OS says "just throw your PC away" for a not really needed (and artifically defined) requirement.

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