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[–] Brodysseus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 6 days ago

I hope those two start taking more young actually left leaning politicians (or even would-be politicians) under their wing and publicly endorsing them.

[–] SarcasticMan@lemmy.world 175 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Too bad the rest of the Democrats can't hear them with all that money stuffed in their ears.

[–] impetchewus@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They can't. But that just means we demand they go.

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[–] Revanee@lemmy.dbzer0.com 121 points 1 week ago (6 children)

They should make their own party with blackjack and hookers. A third party that isn't sleepwalking like the democrats could actually win in this shitshow

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Revenge of the Whigs

(This time everyone has to wear powdered wigs.)

[–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You can have a little syphilis, as a treat.

[–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 week ago

Ye-eee-eeee-sssss!

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Live in the US any longer and it’s going to become a greatest hits album of communicable diseases regardless.

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[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 80 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The Dems need to do a lot of things. I don't really believe it's possible.

For one, if they continue to be owned by corporations, then no change will happen.

If We The People don't actually have a say in party nominees, no change will happen.

If they keep bending over to "cross the aisle", no change will happen. Stop trying to be the "good guy" and fucking fight for the party platform.

And that platform needs to shift away from the wants of rich liberals. Progressives need a voice.

[–] F_OFF_Reddit@lemmy.world 62 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Dems are the establishment, both parties are full of old pieces of shit I think Bernie is the only decent one and he's promoting stuff that we have in Europe and is basic for a rich western democracy.

Nothing is gonna change unless people start rioting and protesting in the streets like the fucking French do, go set a few precints on fire and the ruling noble class will notice you once you kick a few of their loyal uniformed dogs

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago (7 children)

We in Europe won’t have that stuff for long if people keep voting these fascists adjacent parties into power.

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[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 61 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I would love to see AOC and Bernie attempt to bring back the American labor party

[–] pinheadednightmare@lemm.ee 19 points 1 week ago

This is the answer. Dems are compromised. A new party is needed.

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[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 45 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The people need to save this country. Yes that means you and me actually going outside. We need to stop expecting systemic change to come from politicians within a two-party system.

[–] meliaesc@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (3 children)

But what if it inconveniences me even slightly?

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[–] AntelopeRoom@lemm.ee 10 points 1 week ago

Exactly, the country is what we make it, that's what a democracy is. If we do nothing, evil will do something.

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing

[–] HejMedDig@feddit.dk 42 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Bernie/AOC 2028

AOC/The Squad 2032

Make America decent again

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[–] pinheadednightmare@lemm.ee 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Then separate yourselves from the dems and create your own party. We will follow.

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[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A party that fights at all would be a good start.

[–] EaterOfLentils@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Right? I'd even settle for a party that has the most basic desire to fight at this point.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

The Democrats need to dump their old shitty politicians. I would vote for AOC if she decided to run for president.

[–] poopiddy@pawb.social 24 points 1 week ago (3 children)

just make a new one already

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[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 21 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Dems are just a bunch of empty chairs.

Sucks, but it's also an opportunity. Plenty of space for progressives to move in and take over.

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[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

Great to see from these two.

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (14 children)

Rather than try to start a new party, it's easier and more efficient for the left and progressives to take control of the Democratic party and make it their own (can rename it later). Just like the right took over the Repub party.

The time is ripe for it -- yes, a bit too ripe, maybe even too late, but unfortunately that's how it works with humans--it takes things to get to extremely dire circumstances where all could be lost for the general population to be jolted out of complacency and finally take action.

BUT the other thing we need is someone with charisma and a certain personality type to emerge and lead, because most humans need to be led like sheep.

[–] grumuk@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Except that was the whole idea with the Justice Democrats, that got AOC elected in the first place. Remember when she protested outside of Pelosi's office? Seen any of that lately? Remember when she cried on the House floor? That strategy hasn't worked. As soon as AOC got in, she got eaten by the party. I think advocates of the "take over the Dem party" strategy underestimate the enormous institutional pressure party members come under when they enter that bubble.

[–] slappypantsgo@lemm.ee 18 points 1 week ago

This is exactly right. I don’t think AOC has compromised as much as we think she has, but the institutional power is very real. I remember what things were like in 2016 too. They fought against Bernie’s influence at every step, and colluded to get their favorite candidate elected.

All we have to do is look at the most recent Third Way strategy document to understand. The right wing Democrats (“centrists”) would rather lose to Donald Trump with Harris than win with Sanders or any halfway progressive. It’s just a huge obstacle and if we do try to fix the party, we need to dislodge ALL of the entrenched right wing elements.

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[–] Wilco@lemm.ee 10 points 1 week ago

We need a democratic party that fights ... just that .. that will do something besides just expose their belly.

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