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Finland is named the happiest country in the world for the eighth year in a row, according to the World Happiness Report 2025 published Thursday.

Other Nordic countries are also once again at the top of the happiness rankings in the annual report published by the Wellbeing Research Centre at the University of Oxford. Besides Finland, Denmark, Iceland and Sweden remain the top four and in the same order.

Country rankings were based on answers people give when asked to rate their own lives. The study was done in partnership with the analytics firm Gallup and the UN Sustainable Development Solutions Network.

When it comes to decreasing happiness — or growing unhappiness —the United States has dropped to its lowest-ever position at 24, having previously peaked at 11th place in 2012. The report states that the number of people dining alone in the United States has increased 53% over the past two decades.

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[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 106 points 20 hours ago (5 children)

Here's an old Finnish joke:

Why are people in Finland the happiest people on Earth?
Because all the sad people have killed themselves.

[–] obstbert@feddit.org 17 points 17 hours ago
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[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 29 points 17 hours ago

That's what you get when everyone has a sauna.

And yes, many homes have it and one thing my Finnish friend does is sauna up and then jump in the snow. That'll wake you up.

[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 80 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

It is like being a Nazi does not make you happy. Imagine that.

[–] Embargo@lemm.ee 60 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

I dunno, man. Israel being 8th is pretty fucked up.

[–] spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Israel has dived head first into being Nazis and they're almost all fucking about it. They're just happy they get to ~~exterminate the jews~~ get to be the ones doing the extermination this time.

The 'problem' the US has is only 1/3 of us have embraced being nazis, while another 1/3 doesn't give a shit.

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[–] LNRDrone@sopuli.xyz 22 points 21 hours ago

Maybe it's more of a oh shit I have to appear happy with everything or the Israel gestapo will get me kind of thing. The human element on these things means there's always some amount of bending the truth or out right bullshit in the data they use for this.

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[–] polycrome@lemmy.world 8 points 20 hours ago

Can confirm: the Nazi bar sucks. They card you to leave.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 30 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] LNRDrone@sopuli.xyz 16 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

I'm convinced Finns have just found a way to troll this somehow. Not that Finland isn't great and all, but it just makes more sense.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 10 hours ago

Like they just lie on the Gallup poll calls so they seem less suicidal?

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 3 points 13 hours ago

It's easy to be content with life when things are overall pretty good. And Finns typically are happy with fairly little, so we rank high.

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 9 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

According to the other comments, they ask "How are you?" ans the response is "eVeRyThInG Is gReAt" and this gets written down as a 5/5 on the happiness scale.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 9 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

No, it's because things are all things considered pretty good here, so people say "can't complain". Things overall are pretty good. Some understand happiness as being giddy about life but what this ranking more about is how content you're with your life and when things are overall alright, it's easy to be content.

The happiness thing is misleading since what it means varies a lot culture to culture.

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

“can’t complain”

That would never work around here. We complain about everything. And then we'll complain how much everybody is complaining. Our happy state is complaining.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 11 hours ago

It's more of a phrase that just means "I guess things are pretty okay, considered". People say "can't complain" and then immediately before and after complain hah

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 9 points 21 hours ago (31 children)

As a Finn, I'd like to remind you this is 50% bullshit.

They go around asking people how they are and in Finnish culture, you're not allowed to complain, and our society sees to it that we give even substance abusers and drunks rent money, so people answer "can't complain".

Finnish people are emotionally stunted and don't even understand the concept of happiness.

[–] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 55 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

So.. people with addictions are treated as people and provided for, and they 'can't complain' about their overall circumstances. Therefore the Finnish are emotionally stunted? There's a leap of logic here

[–] LNRDrone@sopuli.xyz 37 points 21 hours ago (5 children)

As someone who grew up in Finland, I get what they mean. Finns only bitch about things to their inner friend circle (very small circle usually), anyone outside that gets maybe a sarcastic everything's great, especially that thing that's really pissing me off right now kind of response. At the same time pretty much everyone gets treated generally fine and there is great support available for anyone, so it checks out those markers I assume this happiness quiz thing looks for. Why this feels weird for Finns though, is that there's also some widespread deep depression in Finnish culture. From my viewpoint as someone who hasn't lived in Finland for a long time now, I think unlike most other places the source of the depression isn't the system grinding you down, it's more internal than that. Maybe just dealing with the elements and trying to figure out what you want do with your life kind of shit.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 5 points 16 hours ago

Back home we were always joking, that Finland and Hungary are distant cousins in a head to head competition for highest amount of alcohol abuse and suicide.

[–] WhiteRabbit@lemmy.today 15 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm not Finnish and I got it. Sounds like my dad who's a bit of a hardass and doesn't like for others to worry. Life is hard, what's complaining going to do? And yeah I'd say he's emotionally stunted and has trouble forming real connections.

[–] LNRDrone@sopuli.xyz 6 points 20 hours ago

Yeah that sounds right on. That's very common attitude/outlook with Finnish men at least. Not sure if the ladies are different or if my sample size just isn't large enough, but the women I know are more open.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

I'd agree.

Except I know support isn't actually available. Everyone says it is. But it actually isn't.

You won't get evicted or starve, but battling bureaucracy and being ignored by people will get to your happiness.

[–] Takapapatapaka@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I get what you mean, support in laws and numbers is not real solidarity, and therefore not effective nor complete support.

But from an outsider perspective (and i still leave in one of the most "supporting" country i'd say), it's already a big step from our current position to not get evicted or starve.

It's a good thing to know that solving symptoms with money does not solve problems though, but i feel like it remains hard to explain to people that it's not already a big step forward.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago

Financially? Sure.

"Getting help when you're feeling like killing yourself"? Nah.

Like literally I couldn't get help. The ER doc dismissed me, a crisis center dismissed me, my family dismissed me. Even after the documented seizures and me not getting any fucking help.

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[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

So.. people with addictions are treated as people and provided for,

Definitely not what I said.

You're saying I'm saying A caused B, when I am actually saying that A is a symptom of B.

Want to see the pictures of the cell I was kept in for more than three days without my prescribed meds?

There is no way a majority of the guards / police could've been ignorant of it. Also, they turned off my water for almost a day. Literally crimed against humanity.

I once walked into an ER and after telling them I'm afraid I'll hurt myself or someone else, the on-call psychiatrist told me "don't try to make this my responsibility". Like... my man. That's literally your job description and legal duty.

But here you are, a Finn, I presume, making strawmen, since the only feeling you haven't repressed is anger towards people who actually feel.

[–] Stepskippin@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

I was actually wondering about that. Finland keeps getting this high ranking, so at what point do the Finnish people feel obligated to maintain that reputation when they answer these surveys? For at least a few people, I'd imagine it becomes a small point of pride.

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[–] shmank@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Dining alone makes me happy.

[–] original_reader@lemm.ee 14 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

One might argue that people preferng to be alone is a symptom of the problem - if the motivation is to avoid stress and frustration.

On the other hand, if being alone is used in a balanced way as a form of self-care in a noisy world that demands so much of us, it can be healthy.

In the end, I would say, it all depends on whether this solitude feels empowering or isolating.

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