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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 14 minutes ago

Post Mortem Stage Cap

[–] Matombo@feddit.org 1 points 4 minutes ago

At what point is it stopped being called capitalism and start being called slavery again?

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 1 points 6 minutes ago

Become? Always has been.

[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works -1 points 22 minutes ago

Lpt: pretend you're a frail old person so then you get more tips whwn people feel bad.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 52 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

I've seen this several times in Florida (retirement capitol of the US). Often times it's couples trying to drive around doing deliveries. They don't even know what a GPS is so they take forever and a day. But then they finally arrive and your anger turns to sorrow when you see these frail old people just trying to survive.

[–] rockhard@lemm.ee 8 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I've noticed that more and more seniors are entering the labor force after retirement and it doesn't have to do with keeping busy. One of my local grocery stores had a woman who would work a few days a week but she quit during Covid. Ran into her on another occasion. She said she quit because she was just doing it to keep busy and she wasn't going to work if she didn't have to. I don't see that anymore. If I make a comment about "keeping busy" to anyone who says they're retired they admit they can't keep up with insurance or property tax increases without working. We're going to see more and more of this as social security dwindles and prices continue to increase.

[–] Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world 10 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe I'm a bit of an optimist but my grandpa does door dash too, not necessarily for the money because he was lucky enough to have a good retirement net, but just because he fucking hates retirement and is so bored now that hes not allowed to do handyman things anymore (doctor and grandma said he's too old to be running a table saw or climbing a ladder) so he does door dash.

We did make him go pass a driver's test before we let him though haha

[–] Polderviking@feddit.nl 6 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

People choosing to stay in the workforce until they almost tip over is great if that's what they want. There's definitely something to be said for keeping some sort of structure. If seen retirement degrade way too many people.

Being forced to stay in the workforce needs to die a swift death.

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 27 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

And that's why the elderly have become the largest and fastest growing segment of the unhoused

[–] stopdropandprole@lemmy.world 18 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

as social security and welfare are dismantled before our eyes (across both Dem and GOP administrations), homelessness will certainly rise especially among the elderly. i for one won't let my parents die in the street but caring for them full time means never having time or money to have children of my own.

capitalism has taken so much from us.

[–] LeninsOvaries@lemmy.cafe 8 points 10 hours ago

In an ironic kind of way, I'm glad my parents abused me. I don't have to feel guilty about letting them rot. Sure, I have lifelong mental illness, but at least I'll have a bit more money to spend on therapy for it.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 104 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

This is going to be even worse if/when Musk and trump dismantle Social Security. The adult middle class will collapse entirely when their seniors will lose their homes and food, and their children are still at home because they can't afford to live on their own.

Couple this with smaller family sizes, this could mean two single child adults might have to support four living senior citizens (both sets of parents) while also raising children of their own.

[–] pr0sp3kt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 25 minutes ago

Kt looks like they have no other option that legalize euthanasia

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 40 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

This is called the sandwich generation (when you have to take care of both adults and kids on your own). It's a thing!

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 15 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, my mom grew up in a house with her parents and a grandparent of two. And her cousin. That was the 60s and 70s. Guess we're bringing it back!

[–] cheers_queers@lemm.ee 1 points 25 minutes ago

to be fair, multigenerational homes are more common than not in a lot of places and it has little to do with monetary status. America has stigmatized this because it's more lucrative to make everyone pay for things independently

[–] Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Back to when things were great!

[–] jecxjo@midwest.social 4 points 2 hours ago

Kinda like how The Great War was great, right?

[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 25 points 18 hours ago (6 children)

I fucking feel this.

I'm in a situation where in my family I'm the one who's going to be taking care of my parents as they get older because my only sibling (older) is entirely unreliable and financially unstable.

Then my fiance is ALSO being expected to take up that responsibility because all her siblings went and had 2-4 kids and "can't afford" or "won't have time" to help take care of her mother who is already aging.

So we're having to plan ahead as 25 and 30 year olds to be able to help and support 3 elders. This basically defaults us to not being able to have kids.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 10 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

My girlfriend is taking care of her parents with her father having a couple of weeks to live and her mother being so anxious that she can't be trusted to take care of him (give him morphine, start preparing a second dose thinking she didn't give him his dose yet, change his fentanyl patch and doesn't remove the old one)... Her sisters are pretty much nowhere to be found, as if their boyfriends were unable to take care of the kids for one fucking evening.

They'll let their father die a painful death without seeing him, but at least they will have enjoyed the last few days of the ski season!

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[–] balssh@lemm.ee 21 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

You are very optimist people will still have kids in this situation.

[–] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 17 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

pregnancy prevention is expensive and abortions are becoming illegal i think we'll see more kids

[–] stopdropandprole@lemmy.world 10 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

birth rates might go up because times get harder and abortion is illegal... but childhood/infant deaths, deaths from preventable communicable disease, and deaths from exposure to occupational hazards and accidents will all go up

deregulation, dismantling EPA, FDA, NIOSH, medical and scientific research, education. and most importantly, reducing the federal workforce by a couple hundred thousand people who work directly on keeping Americans healthy and safe... is going to have consequences.

I suspect life is going to get much more brutal and short for the next couple generations, assuming we survive that long amidst climate multi crises and wars for resources that are increasingly more expensive to find and extract. so while some people might have a few more kids to work in the slave pits, the life expectancy declines among the 99% is going more than counter act it.

besides, the population growth in America is expected to go net negative by 2033 without sustained immigration, and is rapidly decelerating globally.

[–] balssh@lemm.ee 3 points 8 hours ago

We had a blanket ban on abortion/contraception in the 60s in Romania and while initially there was a boom in newborns, it eventually reverted to the norm even if the ban wasn't lifted. So I'm not so sure about that.

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 21 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Romania tried that already. Decree 770. There was a bump in number if children. After that, pregnant women and childbed mortality went up, kids were neglected or dumped in orphanages. In the end birth rate dropped anyway.

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[–] jared@mander.xyz 73 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

"Couldn't even tip I was so upset"

[–] dditty@lemm.ee 29 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Haha I was going to comment the same thing. Delivery took too long 🤣

[–] stinerman@midwest.social 41 points 19 hours ago

For the OGs here, this is what George W. Bush would call "uniquely American" with pride. The rest of us...not so much pride.

[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 32 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

We are into shit stage capitalism.

[–] Azzu@lemm.ee 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

And for some reason people still refuse to unionize :(

[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 1 points 44 minutes ago

The amazon warehouse near me went for a union vote, and they voted against it 🙃

I almost took a day off work just to go yell at them, but decided against it.

[–] adhdplantdev@lemm.ee 17 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

As if there was ever a time where there wasn't someone who was too old working to earn some money. United States has never properly taken care of its populace why are we pretending that they used to.

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