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Slrpnk and lemmy are great, and I understand they are volunteer driven. With this post I don't mean to be pushy, and I'm grateful for this place and the software, but I hope it's useful to point out where there might be trouble for users down the line:

So I might be missing something, but there seems to be no way to delete a private message, not even after reporting it. Given the nasty things some people may send just to mess with somebody, this seems like a dangerous omission to me that is at a high risk to lead to grief if not addressed at some point. Is there some bug tracker where perhaps this omission could be best pointed out?

My apologies if I'm missing something however. Perhaps I'm just too silly to see the button, it's happened before.

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[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

This would be something to suggest on the upstream Lemmy issue tracker, but I am relatively sure they are already aware but for some reason did not find the time to implement this (or found it unimportant). I somewhat suspect though that this is not so easy to implement as DMs are AFAIK internally not much different from regular posts, and it is generally not possible for regular users to delete posts or comments by other users.

IMHO it would be probably best to add an user profile option to block DMs in general and that at least should be easy to implement.

However, if you receive repeated unwanted DMs from a specific account you can block that user and that will also prevent future DMs from reaching you.

[–] ellie@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

An inbox delete would be enough as far as the user is concerned, it wouldn't need to be deleted on the server side. But e.g. some people send literal gore. Moderation is useful but understandably may often take a while, so until then there should be a way to get it out of sight.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 month ago

If you press the checkmark icon they are hidden behind the "all" tab. Only new DMs are shown in the default "unread" tab.

[–] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No you're absolutely right and it's dumb as bricks.

Right now the only person who can delete a PM is the sender, not the recipient.
The recipient can mark it as read, but that doesn't help much.
Your local admin can do it for you in the database, for recipients local to the instance.
There currently is no way for a local admin to trigger federation of deletion of PMs sent to remote users either.
Although I think there's a Pull Request that implements the "removed" state.
I imagine that would trigger on bans that remove content.
I'm not sure if this will be exposed to users or just admins.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How can I delete PMs I send? They seem to disappear after hitting send.

[–] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Select "All" instead of "Unread" at the top, your sent PMs should be in there.
There'll be a trashcan icon which allows you to delete them.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I guess its just lemmy being a bit weird, because they don't always show up there.

[–] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Select both the "Messages" (as opposed to "All, mentions, etc.") and "All" (as opposed to "Unread") filters.
By default, I think the inbox will try to show a mix of each type of message/mention/reply and you might kinda miss messages in the feed.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah, thats what I tried. I just put it up to lemmy being weird.

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I've mentioned this before. I got scolded at for having feelings. Some admins and/or devs had the argument that nothing could ever be guaranteed to be completely wiped from the internet. So why would anyone want to not see things that bother them?

I run client side filtering now. Server side filtering would be more efficient for both the client and server. And it saves data. It would be a big improvement.

But until the devs realize that there's life outsjde of their mom's basement, there might not be much change.

[–] ellie@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

For what it's worth, the upstream issue appears to be this one: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/4120 And it seems like there is some vague interest in this being solved in the medium term feature. So let's not give up hope just yet.

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

That's good to see, thank you!