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[–] taanegl@lemmy.world 22 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children)

"oh but why won't people vote for the democrats?!?!"

Because they're fucking pussies. Time to vote for the Black Panther Party. I don't care if you're white. I am too.

Now dawn that black beret and start marching with rifle in hand. We're going to go form some fucking cooperatives!

[–] Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz 1 points 7 hours ago

C’mon, they waved those little signs and all that.

[–] aramova@infosec.pub 3 points 12 hours ago

And those same people won't vote for an AOC or Sanders in their district because... Reasons?

[–] PeteWheeler@lemmy.world 16 points 20 hours ago

Democratic party is the party of status quo.

Conservative party is the party of destruction/cancer.

The people want a party of progress.

The people will never get what they want with these two parties in charge of everything.

Just a sad fact. Things will get worse before they get better.

[–] mrodri89@lemmy.zip 6 points 19 hours ago

Fuck Americans. And I say that as an American.

A good chunk of you dont give a fuck about voting and that's why were here.

And they probably aren't smart enough to sign up to Lemmy.

So eat it up. Everyday. Wake up and smell it. All the shit.

[–] Drinvictus@discuss.tchncs.de 99 points 1 day ago (24 children)

Voters: Free Luigi, eat the rich

Elected officials: 💁‍♂️

[–] Wilco@lemm.ee 12 points 18 hours ago

Exactly.

Eventually something minor cannot be done, we want democrat politicians to stop cooperating with Republicans... but no, they just roll to expose their belly and vote in the budget bill.

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[–] WatDabney@lemmy.dbzer0.com 69 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Democratic leaders blearily looked up from their mid-afternoon cocktails on the decks of billionaire's yachts and said, "They want us to what?"

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

Indeed, they're just too status quo.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 50 points 1 day ago

Trump is actively killing democracy. Some Democratic politicians have chosen the most pathetic, inexcusable response possible: bland indifference.

I’m torn between fear that our government will collapse, and the cynical realization that maybe it deserves to.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 54 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So, trumps polling all time low numbers, democrats are polling low numbers.

I feel like if I release T-Shirts that just say "Everything sucks", they would be universally popular.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

*gestures broadly* T-shirts

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Person wearing "gestures broadly" t-shirt standing next to someone wearing a "Thanks, I hate it" t-shirt.

[–] drtaco@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago

I'd vote for that ticket.

[–] DyingWorld@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Unfortunately I think the people need to start fighting first. Neither side can count on their elected officials anymore. One side is just too stupid to realize it yet...

[–] interested_party@lemmy.org 3 points 20 hours ago

Need some serious, if not injurious protests. Time to fight and make some noise.

[–] Heyting@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Democratic party is owned by capitalists. They will never fight for policy that actually improves living conditions of the working class, and thus their sole ‘popularity’ has to stem from people who think they will fight against fascism (they won’t and they don’t).

[–] btaf45@lemmy.world -3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Leninism and Stalinism is every bit as bad as fascism. In fact they are practically the same thing. That why Stalin made a military invasion pact with Hitler against Poland.

They will never fight for policy that actually improves living conditions of the working class

You mean like social security, medicare, and the ACA?

thus their sole ‘popularity’ has to stem from people who think they will fight against fascism

This is backwards. Their unpopularity is because they aren't fighting nearly enough against fascism.

[–] Heyting@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 hours ago

Socialist states have been very effective against fascism, it’s a shame that the US keeps couping them by providing weapons and insane amounts of money to actual fascist groups.

How has medicare worked out for you? Last I heard the whole US population was celebrating the murder of a healthcare CEO because the US healthcare system systematically bankrupts and/or kills working class people.

[–] BlackLaZoR@fedia.io 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Kamala dropped the ball with the presidential campaign. She had no opinion on any issue that majority of voters really cared about. No wonder the entire democratic party gets backlash

[–] Draces@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

She should have never been the candidate. Biden put her in an unwinnable position. The old geezer's ego cost America it's democracy.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world -4 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

You don't think it's the other way around? You don't think it was more her pushing to be their candidate than Biden pushing her? Cuz I don't believe for a second Biden pushed her into that. That was always her ambition.

[–] Draces@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

He waited way too long for the party to pick someone other than the de facto choice which is the vp. He cost Dems their primary. So no. I think she gave Dems the best shot they had given the position Biden put them in.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 1 points 2 minutes ago

Way more than enough time for a primary

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

Of course it was her ambition. But he went full senile during the campaign and then sat on it for another month. Then after he withdrew, his campaign advisors continued to fuck with her campaign. I don't think she would have been the best candidate out of a primary but in that situation she was the best chance for another democratic presidency.

[–] null_recurrent@midwest.social 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

By him leaving it so late, there was really no other practical option. That's 100% on Biden and the milquetoast establishment dems around him.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

I have a very different read on the situation. I think what you saw with a split between Harris and Biden was the split in the Democratic Party. Harris and the people supporting her very much seemed like the Hillary Clinton wing of the party. They basically ran the same campaign she did. They appealed as hard as they could to conservatives. They cozied up heavily to billionaire Tech donors. They tried to push Progressive Politics As far aside as humanly possible. They were against people like Lena Khan. On the other hand I think the people surrounding Biden if not so much him himself, were the more Progressive wing of the party. A lot of the mechanisms put in by Biden's agreements with Bernie Sanders were that part of the party that was forced out by Harris.

Edit: Also I would point out there was plenty of time to run a primary. That fiction that there wasn't enough time is just what the party said so they could put their hand chosen candidate in.

[–] btaf45@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

They appealed as hard as they could to conservatives.

You mean with Clinton's proposals to raise taxes on the rich 6 different ways? Or Harris proposal to raise taxes on corporations beyond what Biden did? I didn't know that conservatives wanted to aggressively tax the rich. /s

I cannot think of one single policiy of Harris that was "designed to appeal to conservatives". And since there were NO policy shifts designed to appeal to conservatives, her campaigning with Cheney was a very GOOD thing and not a bad thing at all, because Cheney's support hilighted to the voters that Traitorapist Trump was a fascist. Nobody was stupid enough to think Cheney was endorsing Harris for any of her policies other than democracy and freedom.

Harris was a terrible candidate, but that was primarily because she didn't use aggressive rhetoric against Traitorapist Trump. And yes being more progressive and supporting Medicare For All probably would have helped as well.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 9 points 1 day ago

Harris didn't, at least not alone; 2024 was a party platform problem.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

US voters want to fight against the one party state .... the Democrat/Republican Party

[–] twice_hatch@midwest.social 13 points 1 day ago

I'm eagerly waiting to see US voters fighting against Republicans, I'm not sure I've seen it in my whole adult life

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

fight rather than compromise

Why are there so many stupid people that can vote? Because that is how fascists and authoritarian governments get to grab power.

History has given us some of the best documented examples of how it can go terribly wrong. Specifically Hitler and how he first destroyed democracy. Every step Trump is taking is the same as Hitler did.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago

Hungary is another good case of how the right got into power and then changed laws to make it extremely unlikely they will ever be unseated.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Man I wish they'd get rid of this phony nerd routine this guy pulls with his idiotic rolled up sleeves and over the top presentation. Theres plenty of real data nerds out there who'd do a better job.

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