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Democratic Party hits new polling low, while its voters want to fight Trump harder
(www.nbcnews.com)
this post was submitted on 16 Mar 2025
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You don't think it's the other way around? You don't think it was more her pushing to be their candidate than Biden pushing her? Cuz I don't believe for a second Biden pushed her into that. That was always her ambition.
He waited way too long for the party to pick someone other than the de facto choice which is the vp. He cost Dems their primary. So no. I think she gave Dems the best shot they had given the position Biden put them in.
Of course it was her ambition. But he went full senile during the campaign and then sat on it for another month. Then after he withdrew, his campaign advisors continued to fuck with her campaign. I don't think she would have been the best candidate out of a primary but in that situation she was the best chance for another democratic presidency.
By him leaving it so late, there was really no other practical option. That's 100% on Biden and the milquetoast establishment dems around him.
I have a very different read on the situation. I think what you saw with a split between Harris and Biden was the split in the Democratic Party. Harris and the people supporting her very much seemed like the Hillary Clinton wing of the party. They basically ran the same campaign she did. They appealed as hard as they could to conservatives. They cozied up heavily to billionaire Tech donors. They tried to push Progressive Politics As far aside as humanly possible. They were against people like Lena Khan. On the other hand I think the people surrounding Biden if not so much him himself, were the more Progressive wing of the party. A lot of the mechanisms put in by Biden's agreements with Bernie Sanders were that part of the party that was forced out by Harris.
Edit: Also I would point out there was plenty of time to run a primary. That fiction that there wasn't enough time is just what the party said so they could put their hand chosen candidate in.
You mean with Clinton's proposals to raise taxes on the rich 6 different ways? Or Harris proposal to raise taxes on corporations beyond what Biden did? I didn't know that conservatives wanted to aggressively tax the rich. /s
I cannot think of one single policiy of Harris that was "designed to appeal to conservatives". And since there were NO policy shifts designed to appeal to conservatives, her campaigning with Cheney was a very GOOD thing and not a bad thing at all, because Cheney's support hilighted to the voters that Traitorapist Trump was a fascist. Nobody was stupid enough to think Cheney was endorsing Harris for any of her policies other than democracy and freedom.
Harris was a terrible candidate, but that was primarily because she didn't use aggressive rhetoric against Traitorapist Trump. And yes being more progressive and supporting Medicare For All probably would have helped as well.