this post was submitted on 14 Mar 2025
9 points (100.0% liked)

Buy European

4785 readers
914 users here now

Overview:

The community to discuss buying European goods and services.


Matrix Chat


Rules:

  • Be kind to each other, and argue in good faith. No direct insults nor disrespectful and condescending comments.

  • Do not use this community to promote Nationalism/Euronationalism. This community is for discussing European products/services and news related to that. For other topics the following might be of interest:

  • Include a disclaimer at the bottom of the post if you're affiliated with the recommendation.

  • No russian suggestions.

Feddit.uk's instance rules apply:

  • No racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia or xenophobia
  • No incitement of violence or promotion of violent ideologies
  • No harassment, dogpiling or doxxing of other users
  • Do not share intentionally false or misleading information
  • Do not spam or abuse network features.
  • Alt accounts are permitted, but all accounts must list each other in their bios.

Benefits of Buying Local:

local investment, job creation, innovation, increased competition, more redundancy.

European Instances

Lemmy:

Matrix:


Related Communities:

Buy Local:

Continents:

European

Buying and Selling:

Boycott:

Countries:

Companies:

Stop Publisher Kill Switch in Games Practice:


Banner credits: BYTEAlliance


founded 2 months ago
MODERATORS
 

I'm looking to buy a cheap mini PC to run Home Assistant. I found lots on Amazon.es but I don't want to give them my money. Looking for something like a cheap โ‚ฌ200 n150 box. Any suggestions where I can buy this in Europe?

all 17 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[โ€“] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 weeks ago
[โ€“] klangcola@reddthat.com 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Edit: somehow forgot that HA sell their own devices, HomeAssistant Green for 100$ and HomeAssistant Yellow which also supports the project.

Original comment: Highly recommend a used "enterprise mini PC" from Dell , HP or Lenovo. Get it from your local IT refurbisher, eBay or your local ebay-equivelent.
These are sometimes called 1L PCs for their 1 Litre size. Model names are Dell Optiplex, HP Elite desk or Prodesk, Lenovo Think centre. Prices are โ‚ฌ100 to โ‚ฌ1500 depending on age and specs. โ‚ฌ150 should be more than enough for HomeAssistant.

Alternatively https://slimbook.com/en/ sells Linux PCs out of Spain, and https://www.tuxedocomputers.com/ out of Germany.

Another option is the british RaspberryPi, but that might be more hassle. You need to separately get a good power supply and cable, good SD-Card, case, maybe with fan. And its ARM not x86, but that doesn't matter for HomeAssistant unless you're doing something very exotic.

[โ€“] Patch@feddit.uk 1 points 2 weeks ago

You need to separately get a good power supply and cable, good SD-Card, case, maybe with fan.

To be fair, if you're not fussy and just want to use it as a computer, you can buy all those things together as a kit. Like so:

https://thepihut.com/products/raspberry-pi-5-starter-kit?srsltid=AfmBOopkmahA5Ntjsh5J-0NW2_skJtlXUGTlNDWRC59yPRroEF2jVOt9

[โ€“] isgleas@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I went with a fanless solution, the Slimbook Zero, if that fits your taste.

[โ€“] klangcola@reddthat.com 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh cool, 4x 2.5G ethernet for โ‚ฌ200! These could make an awesome pfSense / openSense router.

I've seen similar boxes on AliExpress etc , but there you never know what you're getting, with model numbers and "manufacturers" all over the place. And forget about any form of support.

[โ€“] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

Ahh, the same tech lust I used to get when I saw microboards with multiple ethernet ports. pf is awesome.

[โ€“] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago
[โ€“] Cronzo@lemmus.org 2 points 2 weeks ago

Have you tried looking up on AliExpress? I've got only good experiences with them. Just make sure the product is marked as "Choice", as you'll get free shipping and customs already paid.

Have you tried https://www.pccomponentes.com/ ? You could try fnac too (although I'm not sure where are they from). There's also pc box I think. You might try your luck in those

There are a lot of refurbished ex-corporate mini PCs (Intel CPU, 8-16Gb RAM, Windows 10) on eBay for around โ‚ฌ100. It should be possible to install Linux on them.

[โ€“] alexcleac@szmer.info 1 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Question of curiosity: why not consider RaspberryPi for the task? It is definitely going to be cheaper and more power efficient when comparing to mini computer (even if you take new one), because has so much more computing ability per Watt. I've been running HomeAssistant + cups server + small file server on RaspberryPi 3b+ without any issues for few years, and it was pretty actively used.

Additional point, RaspberryPi is publically traded company on London Exchange, and was founded in Britain, which mostly matches the "Buy European" motto ;)

[โ€“] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Raspberry pis are 90โ‚ฌ now instead of 30โ‚ฌ plus you need a SATA hat which is another 40-80โ‚ฌ (unless you want to start having corruption after some years), plus the power supply, another 15โ‚ฌ, that is now the price class of an Intel n100 mini PC that has 10x the power, all of that built in, and still great efficiency.

[โ€“] nuko147@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yeah the RaspberryPi is perfect for those things. They also have Suggested hardware for that. I don't know about your country, but here in Germany electricity is expensive.

[โ€“] JohnSmith@feddit.uk 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

RaspberryPi + USB connected SSD would be my recommendation for HomeAssistant. Using an SSD reduces the risk of SD card flaking

[โ€“] JohnSmith@feddit.uk 1 points 2 weeks ago

And just to be clear, I boot from the SSD and donโ€™t use an SD card at all.

Have you looked at HP elitedesk mini g5/g6?