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Woke up to my computer being updated to W11 from W10, not too happy about that. I want to use massgrave to change my window to W10 LTSC.

I am not interested in Linux.

So, I went to massgrave.dev and did the script, hit 1, etc. It just say something about permanent changed to key or whatever.

So I went download W10 LTSC iso, hit setup.exe and it asked me for product key. I entered my key, say it's not right one.

So could somebody run me step by step how to go about it? I'm not really tech savvy. I want literal step by step, telling me exactly what to do.

Thank you.

Edit: folks didn't really provide step by step here. But I managed to do it. I activiated script via powershell and hit change edition, changed it to LTSC. And then I downloaded window 10 consumer version from massgrave and run setup.exe and done. You might have to do first step shown in first part of massgrave.dev.

So my pc went from w10 to w11 (woyhouy my approval) to w11 LTSC, to w10 IoT enterprise. I'm good now.

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[–] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I am not interested in Linux.

Open BSD then?... Ahahha

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

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[–] Stretch@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The readme explains it well enough that my son did it when he was 16.

Download LTSC, install it, run the script to activate.

Alternatively, you could simply reinstall your owned copy and use Steve Gibson's tool to block upgrades.

[–] whats_all_this_then@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

To add to what everyone's saying since it hasn't been mentioned (as far as I've seen): You can probably disable TPM 2.0 in your BIOS once you re-install Windows 10 so Windows Update will think your PC is incompatible with Windows 11.

I dunno what the security implications are but it's been working really well for me so far.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago

You are on Lemmy, which shows that you weren't deterred from learning about all the instances and stuff. So you are open to learning. So I would slowly dip my toes into Linux if there's no Windows specific software you absolutely depend on.

I would suggest Linux Mint: https://www.linuxmint.com/

This is beginner friendly and for the most part can be operated pretty much like Windows. Slowly, you will get used to typing in commands into the terminal to maybe update and upgrade your system. Online instructions to install programs are widly available to find (install [program] on ubuntu/debian) can be easy since it's based off of ubuntu/debian

Now, if you really want to use windows for whatever reason, everything is already on the massgrave website for you to read and install.

https://massgrave.dev/genuine-installation-media

Linux will show you how to troubleshoot and use your computer more efficiently and not spy on you.

Windows will simultaneously spy on you and still shit itself so you'll still have to learn to troubleshoot. Give it a few years, and Windows will enshitify further. You're just delaying the inevitable.

[–] N0x0n@lemmy.ml 58 points 2 days ago (31 children)

I am not interested in Linux.

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[–] DesolateMood@lemm.ee 26 points 3 days ago

I'm pretty sure your supposed to set up W10 first (press "I don't have a product key") and then run the script after it puts you in

[–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 22 points 3 days ago

You have to install Windows LTSC fresh then run massgrave. Product keys for the versions of Windows are different

[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You can't really downgrade Windows.

If you've downloaded Windows 10 LTSC from massgrave, then you need to burn it to a CD (lol) or put it on a USB drive and completely re-install Windows.

Then when you've setup windows, execute the massgrave script to activate windows permanently. Then, while you're at it, you can grab Privatezilla which allows you to completely disable forced windows updates so this won't happen to you again.

[–] MayonnaiseArch@beehaw.org 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He should be able to revert for some time, but the way to do that should be easy to google. If this isn't trolling?

[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

It's not possible to in place downgrade from Windows 11 to Windows 10 without significant issues.

While it's technically possible by the broadest definition of available Microsoft offers no guarantee or support for it as a feature. I've personally tried it several times and never had it be successful.

I cannot possibly discourage you enough from attempting it.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 days ago

https://rentry.co/MR-EverythingWindowsExplained#installing-windows has further info, but tl;dr- install without a key, then use MASgrave after it's installed.

[–] ashaman2007@lemm.ee 9 points 3 days ago
[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

You need to wipe your drive and reinstall windows in order to switch to the ltsc branch.

This said, are you aware that windows 10 dies in October and any security issues (~50 discovered every month, although not all very serious) won't get patched anymore?

Better get used now to w11 or Linux rather than next year after automatically getting a ransomware and losing all your data after visiting a dodgy site

[–] GiraffeNeckInKnot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago (8 children)

I thought LTSC have 10 years support?

[–] 0ndead@infosec.pub 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)
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[–] Outtatime@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I've read somewhere that Microsoft will be charging for extended windows 10 support. And I've also read that somebody is planning a project to be able to download the windows 10 extended support patches without Microsoft. Can't remember where I read it

[–] brax@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Remember when Microsoft said Win10 would be the last windows? That would have been cool.

[–] Outtatime@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

Yeah it would have. Microsoft sucks 😆

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