Why Java endures: The foundation of modern enterprise development : programming

[–] KaladinStormblessed@lemm.ee 7 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I feel like this article was written by an llm? The way it skips around and makes unnecessary comparisons to JavaScript, the jump from the very beginning to very recent changes, it's all just weird. It feels like it's saying nothing but talking a lot

[–] tonytins@pawb.social 6 points 9 hours ago

Knowing Microsoft's AI obsession, I wouldn't be surprised if it is.

[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 17 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Moving to Kotlin taught me to appreciate the underlying fundamentals in the JVM and the patterns present in Java.

I'd rather not use Java today, though. Kotlin is basically Java but with the best practices enabled by default and the bad parts made impossible at a language level.

[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 2 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

I need to know more. What are the bad parts that are disabled? Which best parties are enabled at the language level?

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 13 hours ago

null safety, to my understanding

[–] tonytins@pawb.social 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

For one thing, the file and class name must be the same. While it is good practice, making it mandatory requirement limits flexibility.

[+] cool@lemmings.world -10 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

After using Rust, I struggle to find a use-case for Java.

We have Python for the bad programmers.

[–] jecxjo@midwest.social 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

As a programming language polyglot, currently using Java for backend services, one of the biggest reasons to use Java is due to the ecosystem. Hardened libraries for web frameworks and everything else under the sun means you have confidence in the language. You have millions of instances running in the wild so detection of issues are found and resolved quickly, corporations backing security audits and a lot of funding to make really good libraries.

I hate the language itself and would never choose it as a language for a hobby project, but i completely understand why Java exists and thrives.

[–] cool@lemmings.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Hardened libraries

Like log4j?

Ecosystems matter for sure, but any java "killer library" should be usable by other programming languages.

Programming

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