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Secretary of State Marco Rubio said on Monday that Ukraine would have to make concessions over land that Russia had taken since 2014 as part of any agreement to end the war.

Mr. Rubio spoke as he was flying to Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, for talks with senior Ukrainian officials, and 10 days after a contentious White House meeting between President Trump and his Ukrainian counterpart, Volodymyr Zelensky. The Trump administration halted military aid to Ukraine after the blowup, which centered on Mr. Trump’s refusal to include any security guarantees in a proposed deal involving Ukraine’s natural resources.

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[–] turbulentMagma@lemm.ee 10 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 14 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Bin Laden defeated our freedom and Putin defeated our democracy.

We're such a pathetic nation of pussies. Home of the brave has to be the most ridiculous line in any anthem ever.

[–] punksnotdead@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 hour ago

As Tywin Lannister said "Any man who must say, "I am the King", is no true king."

Any man who goes around telling everyone they're brave, probably isn't brave. In fact it's incredibly cringe.

A cringe country full of cringe people who say one thing but do another. Claim to stand for freedom, democracy, and liberty whilst oppressing all of those things both at home and abroad.

Land of the cowards.

[–] nomoreykns444@lemmy.wtf 1 points 54 minutes ago

What are you talking about? Bin Laden is one of them brave mujayhdeen of afghanistan fighting for freedum

[–] CAVOK@lemmy.world 13 points 1 hour ago

I propose Ukraine cede Kentucky to the Russians. Or maybe one of the Carolinas, I don't think the US really needs two of them.

[–] b0s@lemm.ee 14 points 2 hours ago

So basically they (putin and trump) want more than 2022 borders. And let me guess, they also want sanctions eased and elections to install a pro-putin government? Ukraine should not make any deals with the US. The US admin is the enemy within and the enemy of democracy.
The ceasefire is just a step to get to the sanctions and elections demands. And once they have a "reason" to force those things then russia is set to continue their forever-war.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 18 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

The only territory that Ukraine has to cede is Kursk

[–] sommerset@thelemmy.club 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

They I think almost kicked out of there.

[–] Viskio_Neta_Kafo@lemm.ee 1 points 31 minutes ago

Unfortunately do the Trump holding back U.S. intelligence Russia mad huge gains in Kursk.

Came to make the same comment. There can be concessions on both sides.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 20 points 5 hours ago

No, it must not. If someone breaks into your house, is he allowed to keep the loot?

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 9 points 6 hours ago

Fuckhead rubio needs to pull his head out of Putin's ass even if there is room in it for both him and the orange suppository

[–] DozensOfDonner@mander.xyz 3 points 5 hours ago
[–] jaxxed@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 hours ago

De facto yes, but not in law they don't - no

[–] Jakule17@lemmy.world 41 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

We don’t negotiate with terrorists my ass

MAGA is a terrorist organization. Their whole missguided ideology of "ruling by strength" is just another way of saying ruling by fear. Using fear/intimidation for a political outcome is by definition terrorism. If someone says it has to be illegal (not true) we can also show the number of arrests and violations of peoples legal rights occuring all over the U.S. Breaking laws pertaining to 1st amendment, 4th amendment, 5th amendment, 8th amendment, 9th amendment, 10th amendment, 14th amendment, 15th amendment, and the outright breaking of the law of the land (constitution) by overriding the legislature, which was the only thing keeping the U.S. a Republic.

The U.S. is negotiating with terrorists every day

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 72 points 19 hours ago (6 children)

Imagine a hypothetical scenario in which Mexico invades the United States, takes complete control over the state of New Mexico, and right in the middle of the conflict Great Britain says "the war needs to end", drafts a ceasefire proposal that allows them take control of half of the country's natural resources, and offers no security guarantees in the event that Mexico decides to attack again. If you refuse, the British will stop sending military aid to help you continue fighting. Oh, and Mexico gets to keep New Mexico.

Who in their right fucking mind thinks that this is a good deal? Any sensible person would rather continue fighting than give up their advantage for some flimsy ceasefire that won't stand up to an invader hellbent on conquest.

[–] nomoreykns444@lemmy.wtf 3 points 50 minutes ago

Mexico would have all the right to take back "New mexico" you hypocritical idiot. The US stole it in the first place?

[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 13 points 14 hours ago

And that's after Mexico violated a non-aggression pact and conquered Arizona.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 13 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

Lol. Remember when a bunch of assholes voted 3rd party or didn't vote because they were upset with Democrat's handling of foreign affairs?

Clown country.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 2 points 45 minutes ago

I'd do it again, rather get expropriated and deported from this micky mouse country than use what little political input I have to endorse a genocide

[–] nomoreykns444@lemmy.wtf 2 points 49 minutes ago

You're the asshole, bitch. Your democrats bombed my friend in lebannon. Go kill yourself.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 6 hours ago

both stein and rfk got around 800+k votes. though i suspect many of them R voters on the fence.

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[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 9 points 16 hours ago

I saw a mouse poop and its poop was saying that Ukraine should give territory and other things. I just ignored it and moved on my trail this morning. Can't let poop dictate world order.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 38 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] sommerset@thelemmy.club -2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Go Rubio, go me boi.
Or not, would be nice to crush Ukraine entirely

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