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Secretary of State Marco Rubio said on Monday that Ukraine would have to make concessions over land that Russia had taken since 2014 as part of any agreement to end the war.

Mr. Rubio spoke as he was flying to Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, for talks with senior Ukrainian officials, and 10 days after a contentious White House meeting between President Trump and his Ukrainian counterpart, Volodymyr Zelensky. The Trump administration halted military aid to Ukraine after the blowup, which centered on Mr. Trump’s refusal to include any security guarantees in a proposed deal involving Ukraine’s natural resources.

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[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 4 points 20 minutes ago

Imagine a hypothetical scenario in which Mexico invades the United States, takes complete control over the state of New Mexico, and right in the middle of the conflict Great Britain says "the war needs to end", drafts a ceasefire proposal that allows them take control of half of the country's natural resources, and offers no security guarantees in the event that Mexico decides to attack again. If you refuse, the British will stop sending military aid to help you continue fighting. Oh, and Mexico gets to keep New Mexico.

Who in their right fucking mind thinks that this is a good deal? Any sensible person would rather continue fighting than give up their advantage for some flimsy ceasefire that won't stand up to an invader hellbent on conquest.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 18 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Oh fuck off, Rubio.

[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 72 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

I miss the good old ‘we don’t negotiate with terrorists’ US.

If someone breaks into your house, kicks your dog and rapes your wife, you don’t negotiate to let them keep your TV. You shoot that fucker between the eyes. That’s what we need to be doing.

[–] commander@lemmings.world 34 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I miss the good old ‘we don’t negotiate with terrorists’ US.

Pretty sure that was only a thing in movies.

We negotiate with terrorists all the time.

[–] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 5 hours ago

US literally funds terrorists, gives them weapons, and gives them CIA training to do terrorism. It's like all these terrorist leaders went to the same school, of Americas.

[–] Aux@feddit.uk 14 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

‘we don’t negotiate with terrorists’ US.

That US never existed.

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

it did in the movies, in here lies the problem.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

id probably just try to suck their dick or something

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 hour ago

don't rob my house I'm serious

[–] Litebit@lemmy.world 34 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

I don't see any peace deal unless there is security guarantees, it is not peace without guarantees.

This just embolden russia to rape Ukraine again for more lands. Marco Rubio is promoting a forever war.

[–] commander@lemmings.world 14 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Why do you put stock in security guarantees now?

Ukraine had security "guarantees" when Russia invaded because they gave up their nukes that Western nation have not followed through on.

[–] Litebit@lemmy.world 12 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (3 children)

Memorandum was not really a guarantee. NATO is more of a guarantee, nukes are more of a guarantee. Guarantee means NATO and/or Nukes.

Don't need to believe it will work, Nukes and NATO has worked in the past to maintain peace along russia borders.

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[–] CobraChicken3000@lemmy.ca 35 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Without security guarantees, this isn't a "peace" deal, it's a capitulation and an invitation for future aggression from Russia.

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 18 points 10 hours ago

Says the same guys who called Putin the victim while talking with Zelensky...

[–] SilentStorms@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I don’t see any peace deal happening that doesn’t involve ceding territory.

That said if I were Zelenskyy I would tell the US to pound sand and find someone else to mediate a more favourable deal, maybe Türkiye.

Türkiye would love to be the nation that resolves this.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 30 points 12 hours ago

I hope Ukraine doesn’t cede anything at all.

[–] Nunar@lemmy.world 12 points 10 hours ago

Rubio is a snowflake bitch. As bad as Americans are right now, we're going to eat him in 2-3 years. Stay strong! Slava Ukraine!

[–] bingBingBongBong@lemm.ee 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

His mom must cede territory in any piece deal

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 271 points 22 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 117 points 22 hours ago

Yep, it's treason. And it's not just one guy.

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[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 230 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Someone should invade Rubio's house and demand the deed to one of his rooms before they'll leave.

[–] DaveyRocket@lemmy.world 36 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

Why would Ukraine be negotiating with another adversary? That’s like a boxer going to the wrong corner after the round, that guy also wants you to get your ass kicked.

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 138 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

FUCK YOU LITTLE MARCO

shithead.

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[–] rylock@lemm.ee 120 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

"Turns out, Russia doesn't want to concede anything and demanded more Ukrainian land. Well, we tried. Clearly, it's high time for Ukraine to stop getting in the way of peace."

  • Little Marco in a week
[–] CobraChicken3000@lemmy.ca 14 points 12 hours ago

"we've tried nothing and we're already out of ideas"

[–] ChaosInstructor@lemmy.world 22 points 17 hours ago

they are ok with ceding Texas...

[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 83 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

At the rate we're going, I wouldn't be surprised if trump drops all sanctions against Russia, and starts even funding them and providing them US weapons and Intel. I just wouldn't be surprised.

[–] Makeitstop@lemmy.world 58 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (3 children)

I would assume they're getting the Intel already. The entire administration is comprised of Russian assets and useful idiots. Even if the info isn't being handed to them directly, all the existing security is being ripped to shreds and the teams that would counter any threats have officially been told to ignore Russia completely.

That said, I wouldn’t put it past Trump to publicly give Intel to Russia, but only because he's an idiot and assuming there is a low he won't sink to his always a losing bet.

[–] Geobloke@lemm.ee 4 points 11 hours ago

Tulsi probably hitting Putin with "u up ;)"

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[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 63 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

Likely true if we're being real but... You don't say that outloud you incompetent fucking negotiator.

[–] troed@fedia.io 63 points 22 hours ago (6 children)

Ukraine is winning. That's why Trump has stopped supporting them on request from Putin.

If your news isn't telling you Ukraine are currently stronger on the battlefield, change news outlets.

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