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The Netherlands, which had once allocated 20% of its new city bus purchases to hydrogen in 2021, has now completely phased it out.
The earlier we accept that hydrogen is a dead end for most road-related use cases, the better. Good that new city buses now run mostly electric.
A while ago I was talking to someone form Toyota's sustainability team and they were FROTHING over hydrogen. I don't know much about it, but that surprised me.
Because Japan needs to import most of its energy, it makes more sense to burn the energy at the wheels then behind the wires
Japan needs to import most of its energy
Does Japan not get sunlight or wind, or are there other factors at play?
Offshore wind isn't really a starter for them. They're on the edge of the Pacific shelf and the waters get deep quick. That makes platforms very hard. I also don't think they get much in terms of prevailing winds unlike northern Europe with the Atlantic Jetstreams.
Well, real estate is at a premium in an earthquake prone, typhoon ravaged set of islands. They even have geothermal potential, but don't want to industrialise something with deep cultural value.
And how is turning fossil fuels into hydrogen in a wildly inefficient process going to help with that?
Well, the plan would be to go l use to green energy eventually. Yes, still inefficient, but it makes more sense than burning it in a power plant and pumping the electricity to the car
If you have green electricity, why not just use it to charge the battery? Why go through horribly inefficient extra steps?
Because they don't want to use it in Japan?
You're not making any sense at all.
You should do your own research
I haven't seen a single electric bus in czechia
we do use a lot of trams and trolleybuses, but still quite a lot of loud busses
Czechia is slower to migrate to electric buses than most EU countries.
Great chart! Who are "EU27"? Total average?
Yes, the 27 EU contries (since brexit)
Estonia does have hybrid buses though
This graphic only contains the new buses
then how do you define new?
The graphic says "new city bus sales in 2024"
All the trams are electric and from my experience (Brno) there's lots of those.