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Well put Mr. Tusk.

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[–] index@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Nobody is begging. Politicians are using "defence" as a leverage to enpower and enrich themself

[–] Thebigguy@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 hour ago

Seeing as I invented this meme I’ll overuse it

[–] superkret@feddit.org 9 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

And Germany is taking on 1 trillion Euros in new debt to protect against Russia, which is currently spending less on its military than the EU, while fighting a war.

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 11 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

citation needed.

I've seen the €800b figure but that's the EU as a whole, not Germany on its own

[–] superkret@feddit.org 11 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

Germany is currently planning a "whatever it takes" spending plan of 500 billion for infrastructure projects and an equally high, but potentially unlimited amount for defense.
https://www.ft.com/content/ee20978f-bbcd-4616-954c-7749dc5334fd

[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 6 points 12 hours ago

So ok, that’s not one trillion.

[–] friendlymessage@feddit.org 9 points 17 hours ago

Over 10 years

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)
[–] seeigel@feddit.org 4 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

He knew that before Trump's election but didn't make it an issue. He also knows that it implies that Russia will never attack Poland, let alone Poland allied with Europe.

What's the real need for the strengthened military?

[–] index@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 hours ago

What’s the real need for the strengthened military?

same as it ever was

[–] ReakDuck@lemmy.ml 0 points 13 hours ago

Doesn't Russia want to see Nato entirely gone?

[–] Lemmist@lemm.ee 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

50 mil was in '91. Less than 40 at the beginning of war. No idea how many now. 20?

[–] Suoko@feddit.it 11 points 1 day ago

37 before war.

6 displaced abroad (unhcr)

7 displaced internally.

So around 30 left officially

[–] guy@piefed.social 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

TIL Russia's war in Ukraine is as bloody as WW2

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 day ago

Not from deaths so much as emigrations and secessions.

[–] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Not necessarily. A lot of people (6.9 million according to unrefugees.org) fled the country. That number may be on the low end, as men capable of joining the military fleeing the country may be considered traitors and might therefore flee in secret.

Ukrainian deaths directly caused by the war is counted in the tens of thousands. Casualties are in the hundred thousands, but "casualty" can mean anything from a broken toe to death.

Things are beaker on the Russian side, easily having twice or more the deaths and casualties of the Ukrainians.

The numbers are vague, though. Both sides have good reasons to keep the true numbers a secret, and we won't hear the true Ukrainian numbers until years after the war (and we'll probably never find out true numbers from the Russian side). However, it's not like tens off millions of people are dead.

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