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[–] quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Are actually that bright? Where I live they are very dim and green.

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Ghibli even made a movie about them

[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 5 points 1 day ago

Tumbler has one of the worst comment layouts...

[–] the_dopamine_fiend@lemmy.world 121 points 2 days ago (12 children)

Bioluminescence is actual magic. I will take no calls on this matter.

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 39 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Eh, what fireflies can do is kinda the base level of the bioluminescence 'skill' of the evolutionary tech tree.

https://gizmodo.com/glowing-deep-sea-squid-have-a-complex-form-of-communica-1842472534

https://youtube.com/watch?v=DE89YY7zCio

Humboldt squid skin is bioluminiscent, but roughly akin to a flexible lcd or oled screen, with many different 'pixels' capable of being set specifically.

They likely have the ability to communicate by basically displaying different patterns of different colors and brightnesses and translucency, sorta like a human walking around with a sandwich board made of lcd screens, which they can control with a phone app.

They may very well have an entire language they can convey via sequenced or at least specific patterns.

Note: No clue if you can actually trace bioluminescence in fireflies and certain cephalopods to the same common ancestor or if its completely different, independent evolutionary occurances, but my point is there are certainly more and less complex and utility granting forms of bioluminescence.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

The definition of magic I go by is "affecting consciousness in accordance with will", and when you're going to watch fireflies with the thought in mind to appreciate them aesthetically, then yes, they are actual magic.

https://norse-mythology.org/concepts/magic/

Magic produces change by working directly with consciousness. Its effects often spill over into the physical world, but this occurs only indirectly. This is, in an important sense, the exact opposite of what modern science does. Science causes changes in the physical world in accordance with the “laws” of the physical world. Magic and science not only work by different means; they also work toward different ends, and, in fact, this difference in ends accounts for the difference in means. This is why practitioners of magic don’t conduct laboratory experiments, and why scientists don’t intone chants before altars inscribed with emotionally powerful symbols. The apologists for the conventions of our own age often claim that magic is a “primitive,” immature groping toward science, and now that science has arrived, magic is obsolete. But science and magic are different enterprises altogether. Neither can entirely supersede the other. Indeed, as will be discussed below, magic is as alive and well in the modern world as it’s ever been – it’s just been brilliantly disguised

[–] dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 21 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Nah, it legit is, though. Just because someone or most someones understand how something happens doesn't mean it isn't magic anymore. It just means that we have a hard magic system. We understand our magic so well that we've stopped seeing it as magical, but if you take a step back and take a look at the big picture it becomes clear that the world is magical, and everything around us is this amazing, often confusing, incredible tapestry of Wonder and awe. The world has just ground us down so much that we feel like wonder is strictly for children, that we're not allowed to feel wonder anymore. Embrace the magic. Even if you know how it works.

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[–] Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"I cast 200 μg Luciferin."

[Dice noises]

"Nat 15. Your abdomen glows and dims slowly and rhythmically."

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[–] callyral@pawb.social 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Magic exists but we call it science

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 16 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Any sufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from science.

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[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 43 points 2 days ago (3 children)

It brings me unimaginable sadness to know that my recently born nephew will grow up in such a region, when just a few years ago you could see hundreds of these guys in any given back yard

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 3 points 20 hours ago

I hate blankets of grass so much

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[–] IMALlama@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

We've been living at the same house for about a decade. We have a tiny tiny creek in our back yard with some unmowed area around it. Our yard is chemical free and we have tons of pollinators. We saw single digit numbers of lightning bugs for nearly the time we lived here. Never more than two a night and most nights none showed up.

The past few years we've seen an uptick. Not loads, but they seem to be making a small comeback. At least in our yard.

[–] imvii@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I lived most of my life in areas where fireflies were around, but they weren't the bioluminescent type,

The house I moved to about 5 years ago is in the woods and 3 months out of the year these guys buzz around my front yard and I've even helped a few out of the house.

They never fail to bring a smile to my face.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

First one of the year is always a treat. Then I remember how many there were as a kid and it makes me sad.

Please, switch to red outdoor lights if possible, and if you can't do that, shade your outdoor lights so that it only illuminates specific areas. Fireflies are affected by light pollution.

Also, don't rake your leaves, or if you do have to take, try to sequester them in an area on your property, (I'm currently using my leaves as "sunkill" for garden and flower beds.) fireflies lay eggs on leaf litter, if you dispose of the leaves, you dispose of the eggs.

[–] imvii@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I treat my yard as a natural meadow the best I can. I only mow once or twice a year and we're slowly pushing out the grass previously planted. I dislike the look of a traditional boomer suburbia yard. I much prefer the wild look.

We don't rake at all. I prefer to just let things do their thing and I'm also far too lazy to bother raking. We live in an area surrounded by woods.

We have snakes and foxes and hares that come out of the woods from time to time. A ton of birds. It's perfect.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I wish I could let mine go, but there are city ordnances I have to follow. My "yard theory" is to break up the the whole lot with trees, bushes, flower beds, and garden plots, to the point that I can "mow" with just a weedwaker.

[–] galaxia@lemmy.zip 101 points 2 days ago (5 children)

We used to have so many of them when I was a kid. Their numbers are dwindling. 😭

[–] OZFive@lemmy.world 121 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Saw this just the other day here...

[–] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I saw that the other day too. It's just that 35 years ago, everyone still raked their lawns. Same as 35 years before that.

[–] SippyCup@feddit.nl 45 points 2 days ago (3 children)

We are in the middle of an insect apocalypse.

Remember when you were little how many fucking moths there were? Couldn't keep the porch light on at night or they'd get in the house and you'd be finding moth carcasses all summer.

Now there's just a few. Hardly see any anymore.

Same for house flies, and bees. I used to have to go and spray for wasps every spring, I don't remember the last one I saw.

[–] 5too@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Remember when you needed a bug shield to drive on the highway?

[–] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 26 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Yes and yes (to the person you replied to). All I'm saying is that that narrative seems to be coalescing around "it's because people raked leaves." Does that play a part? Probably. But there's no way it's just that. It's far too pervasive to be "personal actions." The root cause has to be systemic.

[–] SippyCup@feddit.nl 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's not just the leaves, it's humans fucking with the environment, on a macro and micro scale. But that's harder to convey in a single panel

[–] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 14 points 2 days ago

Agreed. But as someone who grew up with the Crying Indian, I am very wary of this kind of oversimplification. It was always, "make sure to cut the rings from the six pack of cans so the turtles don't get stuck," and not, "stop manufacturing death traps," or, Primus forbid, "stop treating the ocean and waterways in general like free waste disposal." It's still being actively astroturfed to this day (see also plastic straws). Case in point: a few years ago there was an "accidental chemical waste discharge" into a tributary of a major regional river that is used as a water source for much of the area. This was posted about in a lightly trafficked regional subreddit where a "hot" post might accumulate a few dozen upvotes over the course of a day and a handful of comments. This one reached over a hundred comments within hours.

It's only x gallons, the river moves y gallons every minute. Nobody would have noticed until the media made a big deal."

The same stuff is used in cosmetics and people put it on their face every day. It's harmless.

And so on.

Messaging is important. The corporate class understands this. Hence trying to shift blame for every single systemic issue onto individuals. Plastic straws. You don't have the right to swim in clean water. Plastic bags. Fuel efficiency. Overnight delivery. Vote with your wallet. Overproduction. Recycling. And now raking leaves.

Want all that in a single panel? Zoom out from the raked lawn and show the silhouette of a factory belching smoke into the air and vomiting waste into a river in the background.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 days ago

It's also humans continually expanding and building in previously undeveloped areas. It crowds out other species.

30 years ago it didnt matter if you raked your leaves because there were still plenty of areas for lightning bugs to migrate in from. But when everyone's surrounded by miles of suburbs the lightning bugs have further to go for you to see them

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (4 children)

The less I maintain my yard the more lightning bugs we get.

We do not maintain our back yard very well. I refuse to let these amazing insects disappear. We also seed for pollinators as well.

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[–] coffee_tacos@mander.xyz 34 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You would not believe your eyes

[–] Hagdos@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

When ten thousand fireflies

[–] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

You already messed up on the second sentence man, its ten million, not ten thousand

[–] Hagdos@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Well, shit

edit: in my defense, |i've never seen a single firefly, so ten thousand would be enough for me not to believe my eyes

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 35 points 2 days ago (3 children)

coming from australia, this is super real… we have such a unique set of animals and plants that it’s all just so normal to us, but then you travel overseas and everything is like what you see on tv and in movies

i’m mid 30s, and last year i saw snow falling for the first time in chicago… snow falling is beautiful, and to most of the world it’s just normal - to australians, it just never happens

[–] straightjorkin@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Seeing how Australians react to kangaroos like they're just slightly more dangerous deer is so jarring

[–] roaringkitty@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

To be fair, they mostly are just slightly more dangerous deer

[–] straightjorkin@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

At least deer act like prey animals

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[–] CptEnder@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Snowfall is probably one of the best sensations in nature. It's just so calming and peaceful.

I hope you get many beautiful snowfalls in your life yet

[–] ChrysanthemumIndica@discuss.tchncs.de 39 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I grew up calling them lightning bugs, and I'm so excited to see a thread full of people calling them the same!

[–] GCanuck@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Fireflies is a much cooler name though.

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[–] LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I know a girl in south carolina who wasn't from there; she saw lightning bugs for the first time there one summer and she started crying. I find that story very touching- its a reminder not to be blind to the beauty of the world, even if that beauty is so common that it's unremarkable.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I see beautiful and common things that people around just shoulder shrug about.

Saw a black bear mama with two cubs last month, a coyote dancing playfully the next week. This week the water lilies are starting to explode across the local swamp. In that same swamp are hundreds, if not 1,000+, endangered pitcher plants and common sundews. Even at work there are several species of songbird in the garden section and raptors patrol the skies.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 44 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Also, people are born every day, and some just go on with their lives never learning about random facts like these. Every day, someone is one of the lucky 10k.

[–] dmention7@lemm.ee 19 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Man, imagine seeing a field of fireflies IRL for the first time, if you had never heard of them before! That would be pretty mindblowing.

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[–] scops@reddthat.com 29 points 2 days ago

My mom grew up in an area of California with no fireflies. When she was a teenager, she went on a cross-country trip with a friend. In the mountains of North Carolina, they were driving along at night when some bugs hit the windshield of their car. They didn't think much of it... until the bug guts started glowing. Then they screamed.

[–] GhostlyPixel@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I grew up in the American southwest and I saw them for the first time last summer. I probably looked crazy to people, a guy in his late 20s taking pictures and videos of bugs along the road to send to my family, but I was genuinely mystified

I thought I was seeing spots on the edge of my vision or something before I realized what they were. I always thought they were constantly emitting light, not twinkling

[–] Tudsamfa@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (6 children)

No fireflies where I live, but that doesn't mean my childhood was free of a beautiful insect swarm.

My area had a bad outbreak of cockchafers I got to enjoy.

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