Are actually that bright? Where I live they are very dim and green.
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Ghibli even made a movie about them
Tumbler has one of the worst comment layouts...
It brings me unimaginable sadness to know that my recently born nephew will grow up in such a region, when just a few years ago you could see hundreds of these guys in any given back yard
We've been living at the same house for about a decade. We have a tiny tiny creek in our back yard with some unmowed area around it. Our yard is chemical free and we have tons of pollinators. We saw single digit numbers of lightning bugs for nearly the time we lived here. Never more than two a night and most nights none showed up.
The past few years we've seen an uptick. Not loads, but they seem to be making a small comeback. At least in our yard.
I lived most of my life in areas where fireflies were around, but they weren't the bioluminescent type,
The house I moved to about 5 years ago is in the woods and 3 months out of the year these guys buzz around my front yard and I've even helped a few out of the house.
They never fail to bring a smile to my face.
First one of the year is always a treat. Then I remember how many there were as a kid and it makes me sad.
Please, switch to red outdoor lights if possible, and if you can't do that, shade your outdoor lights so that it only illuminates specific areas. Fireflies are affected by light pollution.
Also, don't rake your leaves, or if you do have to take, try to sequester them in an area on your property, (I'm currently using my leaves as "sunkill" for garden and flower beds.) fireflies lay eggs on leaf litter, if you dispose of the leaves, you dispose of the eggs.
I treat my yard as a natural meadow the best I can. I only mow once or twice a year and we're slowly pushing out the grass previously planted. I dislike the look of a traditional boomer suburbia yard. I much prefer the wild look.
We don't rake at all. I prefer to just let things do their thing and I'm also far too lazy to bother raking. We live in an area surrounded by woods.
We have snakes and foxes and hares that come out of the woods from time to time. A ton of birds. It's perfect.
I wish I could let mine go, but there are city ordnances I have to follow. My "yard theory" is to break up the the whole lot with trees, bushes, flower beds, and garden plots, to the point that I can "mow" with just a weedwaker.
You would not believe your eyes
When ten thousand fireflies
You already messed up on the second sentence man, its ten million, not ten thousand
Well, shit
edit: in my defense, |i've never seen a single firefly, so ten thousand would be enough for me not to believe my eyes
Bioluminescence is actual magic. I will take no calls on this matter.
The definition of magic I go by is "affecting consciousness in accordance with will", and when you're going to watch fireflies with the thought in mind to appreciate them aesthetically, then yes, they are actual magic.
https://norse-mythology.org/concepts/magic/
Magic produces change by working directly with consciousness. Its effects often spill over into the physical world, but this occurs only indirectly. This is, in an important sense, the exact opposite of what modern science does. Science causes changes in the physical world in accordance with the “laws” of the physical world. Magic and science not only work by different means; they also work toward different ends, and, in fact, this difference in ends accounts for the difference in means. This is why practitioners of magic don’t conduct laboratory experiments, and why scientists don’t intone chants before altars inscribed with emotionally powerful symbols. The apologists for the conventions of our own age often claim that magic is a “primitive,” immature groping toward science, and now that science has arrived, magic is obsolete. But science and magic are different enterprises altogether. Neither can entirely supersede the other. Indeed, as will be discussed below, magic is as alive and well in the modern world as it’s ever been – it’s just been brilliantly disguised
Eh, what fireflies can do is kinda the base level of the bioluminescence 'skill' of the evolutionary tech tree.
https://gizmodo.com/glowing-deep-sea-squid-have-a-complex-form-of-communica-1842472534
https://youtube.com/watch?v=DE89YY7zCio
Humboldt squid skin is bioluminiscent, but roughly akin to a flexible lcd or oled screen, with many different 'pixels' capable of being set specifically.
They likely have the ability to communicate by basically displaying different patterns of different colors and brightnesses and translucency, sorta like a human walking around with a sandwich board made of lcd screens, which they can control with a phone app.
They may very well have an entire language they can convey via sequenced or at least specific patterns.
Note: No clue if you can actually trace bioluminescence in fireflies and certain cephalopods to the same common ancestor or if its completely different, independent evolutionary occurances, but my point is there are certainly more and less complex and utility granting forms of bioluminescence.
Nah, it legit is, though. Just because someone or most someones understand how something happens doesn't mean it isn't magic anymore. It just means that we have a hard magic system. We understand our magic so well that we've stopped seeing it as magical, but if you take a step back and take a look at the big picture it becomes clear that the world is magical, and everything around us is this amazing, often confusing, incredible tapestry of Wonder and awe. The world has just ground us down so much that we feel like wonder is strictly for children, that we're not allowed to feel wonder anymore. Embrace the magic. Even if you know how it works.
"I cast 200 μg Luciferin."
[Dice noises]
"Nat 15. Your abdomen glows and dims slowly and rhythmically."
Magic exists but we call it science
We used to have so many of them when I was a kid. Their numbers are dwindling. 😭
Saw this just the other day here...
I saw that the other day too. It's just that 35 years ago, everyone still raked their lawns. Same as 35 years before that.
We are in the middle of an insect apocalypse.
Remember when you were little how many fucking moths there were? Couldn't keep the porch light on at night or they'd get in the house and you'd be finding moth carcasses all summer.
Now there's just a few. Hardly see any anymore.
Same for house flies, and bees. I used to have to go and spray for wasps every spring, I don't remember the last one I saw.
Remember when you needed a bug shield to drive on the highway?
Yes and yes (to the person you replied to). All I'm saying is that that narrative seems to be coalescing around "it's because people raked leaves." Does that play a part? Probably. But there's no way it's just that. It's far too pervasive to be "personal actions." The root cause has to be systemic.
It's not just the leaves, it's humans fucking with the environment, on a macro and micro scale. But that's harder to convey in a single panel
It's also humans continually expanding and building in previously undeveloped areas. It crowds out other species.
30 years ago it didnt matter if you raked your leaves because there were still plenty of areas for lightning bugs to migrate in from. But when everyone's surrounded by miles of suburbs the lightning bugs have further to go for you to see them
The less I maintain my yard the more lightning bugs we get.
We do not maintain our back yard very well. I refuse to let these amazing insects disappear. We also seed for pollinators as well.
I never lived anywhere near them, never seen a bioluminescent creature in my life despite my wish to do so.
But when I was about 6 years old, I have a weird memory of my parents driving out to the deep desert with me and we parked off some dirt road and my dad got out of the truck for maybe a half hour. My mom seemed nervous. I saw a green light at the base of a bush about 15 feet away from the vehicle, just a tiny little bright green light, solid color, middle of nowhere.
I asked my mom what it was and she said "it's a glowworm" and I asked if we could go look at it and she snapped "NO don't go outside!" and I was absolutely boggled what was going on. My dad came back, they drove out of there without a word. One of those life mysteries we all have tucked away in our memory banks. I'm pretty sure I wasn't dreaming, but it's getting back there in years, probably was early 80's now. (This was the Sonoran desert in winter, there are no "glow worms" out there, and no bugs generally coming out in the cold anyway. I lived there for decades, there are no bioluminescent critters there.)
coming from australia, this is super real… we have such a unique set of animals and plants that it’s all just so normal to us, but then you travel overseas and everything is like what you see on tv and in movies
i’m mid 30s, and last year i saw snow falling for the first time in chicago… snow falling is beautiful, and to most of the world it’s just normal - to australians, it just never happens
Snowfall is probably one of the best sensations in nature. It's just so calming and peaceful.
Seeing how Australians react to kangaroos like they're just slightly more dangerous deer is so jarring
Deer will mostly run the hell away. Roos OTOH, sometimes you gotta punch back.
(For those rare folk who haven't seen that video, he was getting it off his dog.)
To be fair, they mostly are just slightly more dangerous deer
At least deer act like prey animals
Kangaroos would learn their place pretty quick if humans started hunting them with pointy sticks again 😤
i mean, we hunt them with guns now so i’m not sure a pointy stick will change their point of view :p
I grew up calling them lightning bugs, and I'm so excited to see a thread full of people calling them the same!
I know a girl in south carolina who wasn't from there; she saw lightning bugs for the first time there one summer and she started crying. I find that story very touching- its a reminder not to be blind to the beauty of the world, even if that beauty is so common that it's unremarkable.
I see beautiful and common things that people around just shoulder shrug about.
Saw a black bear mama with two cubs last month, a coyote dancing playfully the next week. This week the water lilies are starting to explode across the local swamp. In that same swamp are hundreds, if not 1,000+, endangered pitcher plants and common sundews. Even at work there are several species of songbird in the garden section and raptors patrol the skies.
Also, people are born every day, and some just go on with their lives never learning about random facts like these. Every day, someone is one of the lucky 10k.
My mom grew up in an area of California with no fireflies. When she was a teenager, she went on a cross-country trip with a friend. In the mountains of North Carolina, they were driving along at night when some bugs hit the windshield of their car. They didn't think much of it... until the bug guts started glowing. Then they screamed.
I grew up in the American southwest and I saw them for the first time last summer. I probably looked crazy to people, a guy in his late 20s taking pictures and videos of bugs along the road to send to my family, but I was genuinely mystified
I thought I was seeing spots on the edge of my vision or something before I realized what they were. I always thought they were constantly emitting light, not twinkling
No fireflies where I live, but that doesn't mean my childhood was free of a beautiful insect swarm.
My area had a bad outbreak of cockchafers I got to enjoy.