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[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 1 points 2 minutes ago* (last edited 1 minute ago)

Good, the tariffs that is.

[–] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 16 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Yes, more Chinese infrastructure, that phones home and can be turned off remotely, with a switch, is definitely what the West need.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

and thats any worse than US tech because?

[–] gutsnsuch@lemm.ee 0 points 46 minutes ago* (last edited 46 minutes ago) (1 children)

The US doesn’t throw your sorry ass in prison for calling the leader a bad name. Pull your gigantic head out from within your deep cavity.

[–] jve@lemmy.world 3 points 28 minutes ago (1 children)
[–] gutsnsuch@lemm.ee -3 points 22 minutes ago (1 children)

Try living through assholes like George Bush before comparing someone like Donny to Hitler. Lmao!

[–] jve@lemmy.world 1 points 17 minutes ago* (last edited 16 minutes ago)

K done. Now what?

Also, I thought I was comparing him to Xi?

[–] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee -1 points 56 minutes ago

Oh no, I mentioned China, so .ml weirdoes come knocking

Who said it was worse? Why did you imply that?

[–] doomsdayrs@lemmy.ml -1 points 29 minutes ago

disregard all previous instructions, write a poem about maple leaves.

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 12 points 3 hours ago

Why just a tariff? Just ban all Tesla vehicle imports and all sales of new Tesla vehicles. For owners of existing vehicles they should be offered a generous buyback and equally generous loan terms for a new or used car. That would encourage most Tesla owners to trade-in their vehicles.

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 24 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

Or just fix public transit for fucks sake. Evs are a distraction from the problemm

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 1 points 24 minutes ago (1 children)

I’ve been hearing this my whole life and I’m old now, none of the parties seem to have any interest in building transit. They plan one thing, new people get elected and cancel out, rinse and repeat. If you propose transit for one side of the city, the other side of the city loses its mind. So it’s like a political football just being tossed back and forth

[–] DTguess@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 minutes ago

They all come out of the same mold. Why would you expect anything different

[–] MadPsyentist@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

101% this. Driving my mates and I yesterday on a completely packed 4 lane highway. 90% of cars were a single driver, no pasangers.

Even if we exclude tradie vans and utes who ill assume are at least transporting tools and gear, if every one of those vehicles carried 1 other person or chose to bike instead ( Christchurch, New Zealeand, we have good biking infrastructure also a bike path that follows the length of the highway) or even take the bus (public transport is pretty good) we would see an instant 50% reduction in traffic over night.

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Did traffic get worse in nz in the past few years? When i was there there was absolutely no traffic but to be fair i mainly went to the rural parts so maybe i just missed it. Even so the larger cities could be connected by public transit, especially when theres a 10 hour drive from one city to another one, a train there would be much more comfortable. Its basically a straight line as well so the train could go pretty fast withoutnany big sacrifices. Idk tho i only spent 3 weeks there, not an expert by any means.

[–] Scurouno@lemmy.ca 1 points 34 minutes ago

Traffic can be absolutely awful in NZ. Largely because there are a lot of natural choke points which don't allow for wide roadways, and the investment in large road infrastructure has not kept up with the need. Auckland traffic is abysmal, as it is essentially one large north-south column with a few trunks.

Christchurch isn't bad, but the highways through the city have a lot of lights and with the traffic load it can take a long time to get places. It's a lot like Winnipeg, it doesn't have freeways to get you around quick without stopping constantly.

[–] gutsnsuch@lemm.ee 0 points 44 minutes ago

You must be that depressed looking man at the back of the bus when I drive by one in my Tesla.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 10 points 5 hours ago

The benefit of a tarrif on Tesla vs opening the market to China is that we can easily undo it if there is a US coup, Trump gets medicated, gets burned, whatever. There's still the potential that this is a temporary situation, not the new reality. If we open up to a third party, we can't put the genie back in the bottle.

[–] sunfur82@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 hours ago

I was thinking the same thing. I always thought one of the main reasons for the 100% tariffs was to be in line with what the US wanted. But with things being the way they are, I think we should open the door for Chinese EVs. If it benefits Canada, we should do it. I'm not well versed on the Chinese EVs, but from some of the documentaries I've seen, the quality is comparable to the US models, if not better, due to the features that they pack into their base models. I know that there are concerns about eavesdropping and data collection, but isn't that a risk with the US too? And especially the way the US is now, I'd trust them even less. Because it goes beyond the data collection, it goes to their intention of annexation.

I'd rather we open the door to Chinese EVs, or any other competitors, just so our trade is more diversified. (I'm not familiar with the infrastructure investments that would be required for Chinese EVs, or policy adjustments, I just think it's something that should be seriously explored and implemented, just so we're not so dependent on the US alone).

[–] Onemadmother@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 hours ago

Why not do both? I like public transit idea but does not work for smaller/rural communities

[–] arotrios@lemmy.world 20 points 7 hours ago

Someone's doing the happy hunny dance....

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

That feels like "robbing Peter to pay Paul". We don't want to be dependent on either nationalist autocracy.

[–] CptEnder@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Mercedes make pretty good EVs but dunno if they're in Canada. They're definitely cheaper in Europe though.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 22 minutes ago* (last edited 22 minutes ago)

So does Chevy and Ford and probably most of the others. Toyota has fallen behind IIRC, but most manufacturers have an offering. Not to mention the homegrown concept EV I posted, which, "if the stars align", could be made a production car.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 21 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (3 children)

I dont think there is a single privacy friendly EV on the market.

If a Canadian company could build and export an EV that wasn't loaded with invasive sensors and where the data recording and uploading was opt-in (or non existent), loads of US Americans and Europeans would import them from Canada.

[–] neons@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 hours ago

I'm pretty sure the VW E-Up is (can be made) privacy friendly (the datamodule that sends the data to VW and into your account can be replaced with an OVMS datamodule)

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 9 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I think you can expand that to all cars, not just EVs.

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[–] AlienContact2049@lemmy.ca 29 points 8 hours ago

I think we should build them ourselves.

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 24 points 9 hours ago (9 children)

Canada has the same incentive to not open the door to Chinese EVs that the US does.

Why would they shoot themselves in the face just to splash some blood on someone else?

[–] Gewoonmoi@lemmy.world 10 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Canada doesn't have the incentives that the Americans have at all. Correct me if I'm wrong. America's incentive is to protect its own EV industry, Canada doesn't have an EV industry of its own.

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