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Trump just presided over one of the greatest diplomatic disasters in modern history, with flared tempers, raised voices, and shredded protocol.

Never before has a U.S. president bullied and berated an adversary, never mind an ally, in such a public way.

During a tense Oval Office meeting, Trump and JD Vance attacked Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, demanding he accept a peace deal with Russia or lose U.S. support.

The conversation devolved into shouting, with Trump accusing Zelenskyy of being ungrateful and “gambling with World War III.”

The meeting ended in chaos, with no agreement reached.

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[–] arc@lemm.ee 7 points 27 minutes ago* (last edited 27 minutes ago)

The stupid part is that Trump / Vance made themselves look like assholes. Zelensky was over to sign a deal and they threw him out for disagreeing with their dumb talking points. And far from making America "great", I expect that Canada, Europe, UK, Australia, Japan, South Korea etc has collectively decided that they need to reduce their dependence on America while these malignant narcissists are in charge.

[–] 96VXb9ktTjFnRi@feddit.nl 6 points 33 minutes ago

Their first, still very polite disagreement that evening was when Trump said that the US has given a lot more aid than Europe did, to which Zelensky very politely replies 'they gave a lot', clearly avoiding the obvious 'they gave more', to which Trump then replies 'they gave a lot, but much less than we did', to which Zelensky replies with a clear 'no.' and then they laugh. You could argue that Zelensky does not need to do that, but he gives credit where credit is due to the Europeans, and he doesn't let a blatant lie about an ally slide. It's the type of moment that's beautiful and horrendous at the same time. Source: https://youtu.be/CSe0ntgfpq4?t=726

[–] EtherWhack@lemmy.world 2 points 30 minutes ago

For people curious, here's a complete video. I skimmed through it and it looks like it starts to really devolve a bit after 40 minutes.

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 11 points 1 hour ago

i like how jd kept flubbing his lines. I HAVE BEEN TO... I HAVE SEEN REPORTS ON TV ABOUT STUFF

[–] ReasonableHat@lemmy.world 12 points 2 hours ago
[–] Veneroso@lemmy.world 11 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Well, we're going to have to make friends with Iran to make our membership in the Axis of Evil official.

[–] StinkySocialist@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Now I can think of a lot of places more evil than Iran. Like our good ally and Iran's enemy Israel

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 2 points 52 minutes ago

A woman wearing a headscarf is clearly worse than a genocide on women and children.

[–] Arda1@lemmy.world 40 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Most pathetic behavior from nation leaders i have ever seen, how Trump and Vance even talk is unbearable, its like watching the Boys in actual real life unbelievable. It would be funny if the world wasnt at stake

[–] hardcoreufo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

They are more like the monkeys at the beginning of 2001 banging on the monolith.

[–] MyNameIsFUElonTrump@lemmy.world 26 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Eat shit, Pumpkin Tits.

You too, couch fucker.

[–] ZMonster@lemmy.world 1 points 45 minutes ago

Seriously, Trump didn't kill diplomacy, it lives because everyone else still has it. If anyone knows anything about US history they would know that refusing to "make a deal" with the US is the best possible outcome. That's all I looked for in this article. Please tell me the natives did not actually trust cpt fucking cook...

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