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[–] ptz@dubvee.org 97 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I flat-out refuse to do business with any that requires I use an app. I won't even scan a QR code for a restaurant menu; that's my cue to go eat elsewhere.

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 79 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I don't mind the whole online menu thing. It's probably an environmental net positive, but it's bs if they don't have ANY physical copies for those who can't or don't want to for whatever reason.

If they wanted me to install something, though, that'd be a 100% instant nope.

[–] Dhs92@programming.dev 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I mean I simply refuse to as QR code phishing is a thing

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 13 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

You might enjoy SecScannerQR then. It makes it easier to vet QR codes by giving an option to search for the URL instead of going there directly.

https://f-droid.org/en/packages/de.t_dankworth.secscanqr/

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago (2 children)
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[–] tabular@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

An online menu requires power to be used (on people's phones and the server). Is that really a minor contribution in comparison to printing paper and maybe laminating it?

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 day ago (11 children)

Considering your average printer is a piece of shit that needs to be replaced quite often, yes, using a website is probably more energy efficient.

[–] Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 0 points 8 hours ago

Generally companies use service contracts to keep those things working so mo they wouldn’t be replaced often. They are just a piece of shit

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 15 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

That and those servers are going to be running anyway. Powering a simple restaurant website is a grain of sand on the beach of internet usage.

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 9 points 20 hours ago

Yeah, exactly. If you're worried about the power draw to host a few hundred KB PDF file, you probably shouldn't be using Lemmy, because scrolling through your feed probably uses 100x that in energy costs.

You have to remember that the shared hosting or aws, or wherever is going to be cheapest to host a simple website is also going to be very power efficient. Wasting power is just throwing away free money, and if there's one thing corporations don't do, it's throw away free money.

[–] minibyte@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Most companies will be using laser printers, some of which may outlive me. Toner is cheap and lasts an age.

Inkjet printers are cheap for a reason. They’re a scam.

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[–] tiramichu@lemm.ee 39 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Scan QR code. Order on your phone. Pay on your phone. Asks for a tip.

So uh, what exactly am I tipping you here for dawg?

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 9 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

that stuff is nice as an option. There's a bar I go to that I can order my food and drink to the table my friends are at, while I'm walking to the place, and everything just arrives shortly after I sit down. Other people get offended about how fast I get served, it's always amusing. I also enjoy not interacting with the staff, nothing against them, brain just doesn't brain sometimes.

But what if I didn't have a phone? or if I left home without it? 24/7 pocket rectangle is not natural.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 9 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Losing your phone now is like losing not just your wallet but simple access to everything.

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[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 32 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The funny thing about qr codes for restaurant menus to me, as someone that studied menu design. Is that actual menus are designed specific ways make the restaurant more profit and make it easier for people to find what they want. Whereas qr codes often bring one to a hastily designed list of categories which are not only less intuitive but also less manipulative. So people will end up taking longer to order less profitable dishes.

[–] BossDj@lemm.ee 8 points 23 hours ago

Hell yeah, consumer win. I like selecting an item and it offers me changes or addition options that I never would have considered!

But really, it means they can hire less people so they gain profit anyway.

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[–] distortwave@lemmy.ml 47 points 1 day ago

The whole using your phone for everything from grocery shopping to just doing whatever Like getting deals or whatever?, Can it please go away?

They're collecting our data anyways.

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 65 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If you don't have a smart phone in the US, even temporally, your almost a second class citizen.

Then if you don't install corporate apps on your phone, there are even more problems for you.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 8 points 1 day ago

You can still live in the US without apps... For now

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[–] recursive_recursion@lemmy.ca 40 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A mobile app requirement is an easy excuse for me to nope the fuck out.

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 20 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

My old apartment had gates that could only be opened with an app. They took out the card reader and made it app only. Should have gotten out of there much earlier than I did.

Yeah, that's a nope from me. I'm trying to eliminate as many apps from my life as I can.

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[–] DarkSpectrum@lemmy.world 14 points 22 hours ago

Cloudalist's and their technofuedalism

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 10 points 20 hours ago

"Continue reading this on the reddit/instagram/tik tok/blablah app" No, I didn't need to see it that badly.

[–] mox@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 23 hours ago
[–] tabular@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Even if you did want apps the majority only offer it from 1 of the 2 popular repositories (" stores "). It's a shame they do not have a way to track that lost sale/interaction.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 13 points 1 day ago (6 children)

You don't need an app to use a loyalty card...

But yes I am against supermarkets that only provide discounts if you use their loyalty program, which in turn allows them to track your purchases. Especially since many items are priced with the discount as the "fair" price and the full price is really just a money grab.

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 0 points 10 hours ago

If you do the calculation, the discount you get in the end is often just 1%. I don't really care about that 1%. You can get more, but the time you have to invest to get a better deal makes less money than just work an extra hour.

And some of those loyalty programs have expiring points, that happen to expire just before you get to the tier when things get interesting. And when you do save up to the food stuff you find out the app is a lot better at collecting loyalty points and doesn't work so great at exchanging them.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 6 points 22 hours ago

This kinda shit is why I go to Aldi instead. They give everyone the same low prices. Tesco have their clubcard and seeing how much more they want to charge me for not having one puts me off ever going there on a regular basis.

Also under 18s can't get these loyalty cards here so fuck you I guess you have to pay a load more.

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[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago

i don't have one. i don't want one, either.

[–] ctkatz@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

especially if you don't have an iphone. I have seen so many accessories and apps that were made for use on iphones which would also be useful for android devices as well. my transplant clinic has a patient portal that has an app for iphones but nothing for android so you have to use their website.

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