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German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock warned that forcing Ukraine into an unfair peace deal would lead to more war, rejecting any agreement that concedes territory to Russia without security guarantees.

She urged Europe to pressure the U.S. to support its NATO allies. Meanwhile, Trump dismissed Zelensky's role in peace talks, claiming Ukraine has "no cards" to negotiate.

U.S.-Ukraine relations remain strained, though some American officials signaled continued support.

Trump's team insists Zelensky will eventually accept a U.S. rare earth mineral deal despite Kyiv’s current resistance.

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[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 6 points 18 hours ago

Good. Call it what it is.

[–] Anarch157a@lemmy.dbzer0.com 109 points 2 days ago (2 children)

No one will accept a deal with the US for the next 20 years. Zelensky would get a better outcome if he made a pact with the actual Devil than with those bozzos in DC.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 hours ago

Idk why, but this made me think of a philosophical quandary. If you sell your soul to the devil to save someone else or your country, do you still go to hell?

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago

Step 1: capitulate

[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 70 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I say this as a US citizen, for AT LEAST the next four years, do not rely on the US for ANYTHING. Even if Trump says you can count on the US, even if he signs a contract in blood, it isn't worth even wiping your shit with.

He will give everything to Putin. That's the only thing you can count on.

It's time for a different superpower to pick up the reins or ascend. The EU can become that, but they really need to stop pretending the US is going to do anything for them.

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (2 children)

China has been working toward that superpower status for some time. They're a lot more ambitious than the leaders in the EU and much more brazen.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

Too bad they are extremely authoritarian.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I would say they’ve had superpower status since the 1950s, since the wars in Korea and Vietnam.

[–] guy@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nukes are cool and all but wouldn't a super power at least need some over seas power projection like aircraft carriers? I'd say China has been, and still is a regional power albeit rising

[–] FarceOfWill@infosec.pub 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It owns too much of Africa to be a regional power. It's a superpower even if by a web of alliances/dependants rather than its own military projection

[–] angrystego@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

And spreading in South America.

[–] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Y'all willing to give us a couple hand me down super carriers?

The rest of the world will pick up the torch, it's just going to be a long time before we can replace the US due to how large and how stable it's been in the past. No one really expects an ally to flip the table, of a game they're winning at, for the lulz.

[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

This should be a wake up call to invest in your own carriers and military. Stop letting the US have the monopoly on firepower.

[–] Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 day ago

Germany has relied on the USA since the BRD was founded. The left party (Die Linke) was and still is the only party in parliament that's against it.

Seconded. The US can no longer be trusted. God speed, and I wish you the best.

-us

[–] Gikiski@fedia.io 22 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Probably 'extortion'. What has Ukraine done 'bad (ethically wrong) enough to merit blackmail'?

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 3 points 13 hours ago

Trump did extort zelensky the first time, which resulted in his performative impeachment

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

They dared to resist an imperial power. That seems to be the lesson trump wants to teach the world: Don't dare resist.

Seems like a fun way to have 20 new nuclear-armed countries by next year.

[–] Glitterbomb@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ukraine should immediately start surface testing nuclear weapons.

[–] thallamabond@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Ukraine does not have nuclear weapons. They gave them up for peace...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum

[–] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

No one's ever going to do that again. Trump has guaranteed a new era of nuclear proliferation.

[–] Glitterbomb@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

That's why they have to test the new ones.

[–] alkbch@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

While the nuclear weapons where physically present on Ukraine soil, the country did not have operational control over them.

[–] Litebit@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

Not all require launch codes. Especially not those delivered by plane. The rest they could dismantle and repurpose.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 13 hours ago

Yup, all the launch codes and mechanisms were in Kremlin

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But they have the capability right? Truly if they wanted to have a nuke I'm positive they could build one.

[–] thallamabond@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The stuff you need to make this sort of thing isn't off the shelf, they would have to buy or build a shitload of these

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_centrifuge

and its not cheap, these are just maintenance cost (and upgrades)

https://www.statista.com/statistics/752531/nuclear-weapons-spending-worldwide-by-country/

Ukraine's gdp is around 170 billion, so it isn't really something they could afford to just crank up.

On a personal note, I hope we as a species never fire another one of these weapons ever again.

[–] Litebit@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

How does pakistan and nkorea do it then?

[–] ToxicWaste@lemm.ee 2 points 7 hours ago

north korea does not need to pay its employees and has state sponsored hackers extorting hospitals. idk what revenue streams pakistan has. while the knowledge isn't hard to get, usually the problem is sourcing enough radioactive materials.