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I am shocked by this - the quote in below is very concerning:

"However, in 2024, the situation changed: balenaEtcher started sharing the file name of the image and the model of the USB stick with the Balena company and possibly with third parties."

Can't see myself using this software anymore...

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[–] SpatchyIsOnline@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

Here's a wildcard people might not know about: Raspberry Pi Imager

I use it because it's faster than Etcher and it also has a bunch of quick links to download popular images (mainly for RPI and other arm-based SBCs) in one click which is handy if you use those regularly.

[–] maniel@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago (3 children)

i still had issues using 150MB electron based bloated and heavy software instead of rufus, not that it worked for me anyway

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[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago

Thats a shame, it was one of the few disk imagers that "just worked"

[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Just use dd. It's not that hard. You pass it 2 arguments: if= the file you want to flash, and of= the destination. If you're feeling fancy, pass in some status=progress. And don't forget to prepend it with sudo. That's it.

[–] harsh3466@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

I just tried this the other day and was unable to boot from the USB. Any chance you could shed some light on what I might have screwed up?

The command was:

dd if=fedora.iso of=/dev/sdc bs=4M status=progress

The USB stick was not mounted and the fedora image was verified. The command completed successfully but I couldn't boot from it. When I used fedora writer to burn the same image to the same USB stick it booted no problem.

Edit: spelling & capitalization

[–] massacre@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Don't use Fedora myself, but it may not be a hybrid ISO that becomes bootable when written... so I looked and you are missing a flag

dd if=/path/to/image.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=8M status=progress oflag=direct

From https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/creating-and-using-a-live-installation-image/

[–] harsh3466@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ah! Thank you! I knew it was something I screwed up!

[–] Rogue@feddit.uk 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You didn't screw up, you beautifully proved why the CLI is never a simple solution.

[–] Abnorc@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

This is why people trying to pass this as a primary option baffle me a bit. dd is not that bad in isolation, but all of these little commands add up.

If we want Linux to be mainstream, we need to accept that most users aren't going to be linux enthusiasts. They just want a PC that works normally.

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[–] BoxOfFeet@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

Wow, I was not aware of that. I really liked balena. Thankfully, I haven't been using it since installing Mint.

[–] orize@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Friendship ended with Balena

Now Rufus is my new best friend

[–] PullPantsUnsworn@lemmy.ml 36 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Is no one aware of Fedora Media Writer? It's FOSS and the most trustworthy ISO burning software in existence. It's only issue is that its named as if it is written only for producing Fedora bootable media. It works for everything.

[–] kalpol@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Opensuse has one too. And dd exists for the brave or the foolish

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[–] davel@lemmy.ml 125 points 3 days ago (3 children)

♬ Hello dd my old friend
I’ve come sudo with you again ♬

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[–] Atlas_@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago

Rufus is great! I worked with the maintainer to fix a bug in hardware they didn't have and it was a very pleasant experience.

[–] pH3ra@lemmy.ml 45 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If you need a FOSS, cross platform GUI for bootable USB sticks, Raspberry Pi Imager is a really good solution.
It is mainly used to flash SD cards for RPIs, but also you can burn any ISO on any support with it.

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[–] nullpotential@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] utubas@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago

Ventoy uses several blobs without any instructions of compiling them yourself?

[–] Preflight_Tomato@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago

I guess I could install Ventoy on the raspberry Pi's SD card, but I prefer it to be bare, since the idea is to keep it simple.

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 45 points 3 days ago (18 children)
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[–] ftbd@feddit.org 16 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Why use a fancy GUI tool when good old dd does the trick

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

for Windows

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[–] Xttweaponttx@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Balenaetcher has, for me at least, failed to write to USBs for the last 3 years or so that I've tried to use it - meanwhile random iso writers from flatpak have been more reliable for me. Very obnoxious that so many iso related sites recommend it. Rufus kicks tons of ass, if for whatever reason you're still on windows.

Also on most distros I've tried, the disk utility has some sort of right click or context menu that gets you a 'restore disk image' button that works great as well.

Edit= I used Popsicle USB writer from flatpak on steam deck with no issue today! Made by system76 (makers of popOS) and found on flatpak. It is absolutely no frills, but works well enough to write an SD card image for a raspberry pi! 🙂

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[–] solomon42069@lemmy.world 38 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I knew that UI had something to hide!

Never trust an overly fancy UI...

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 20 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

nah, plenty of good stuff with good ui.

balena had effects and stuff but a pretty tasteless gui tbh, and ads promoting other shit...

[–] brickfrog@lemmy.dbzer0.com 57 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

That's interesting, apparently it was mentioned on github but nothing seems to have changed in the end

https://github.com/balena-io/etcher/issues/3784

Haven't used that software in a long time but maybe there's an opt-out somewhere during runtime? Although I don't see why a user needs to be required to opt out of nonsense like this when just writing firmware to a USB disk.

Only ever touched balenaEtcher when some project or distro recommended it. Overall prefer Rufus for this sort of thing when working on Windows.

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[–] OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 days ago

Linux mint factory USB creator just right click and make bootable.

[–] renzev@lemmy.world 36 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I remember a while back, years before this surfaced, there was a thread on /g/ with a group photo of Balena's employees and a caption like "why does it take so many people to develop an electron wrapper around dd". Obviously it was low effort engagement bait (balena does much more than etcher), but the comments were full of people calling the company a glowie honeypot and the like. Moral of the story: Trust the schizos, they sense spyware form lightyears away.

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[–] Meshuggah333@beehaw.org 16 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

did they ever clear up that random unexplained binaries issue?

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[–] oceane@jlai.lu 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Unrelated to balenaEtcher but I haven't been able to flash ISO files from Windows 11, either by using Rufus, Etcher, Fedora Media Writer, or even the WSL. I need to borrow a computer running a FLOSS operating system or to install OpenBSD first, and then from OpenBSD to download and burn an ISO file.

[–] AugustWest@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That sounds like an issue with your computer rather than W11. I just used Etcher on my W11 desktop to flash Mint XFCE yesterday with no issues.

[–] oceane@jlai.lu 1 points 1 day ago

Thanks for the tip, I'll try that with different computers.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 33 points 3 days ago (9 children)

Sudo dd if=tails.iso of=/dev/sdb

[–] sneezycat@sopuli.xyz 41 points 3 days ago (5 children)

bash: Sudo: command not found

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[–] lime@feddit.nu 30 points 3 days ago (12 children)

i still don't understand why anyone would use etcher. it's an electron wrapper over dd. it's 80MB where rufus is 1.5. when it appeared there were already other programs that did its job better.

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