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During negotiations with the DNC and the Harris campaign, we were repeatedly told by interlocutors that Harris couldn’t meet any of our basic requests (a policy shift from Biden, a Palestinian speaker at the DNC, a statement distinguishing herself from Trump on Israel, or even a meeting with Michigan families who lost loved ones to Israeli bombs) because of AIPAC-aligned politicians like Fetterman, who might take to TV, rile up suburban white and Jewish voters, and fracture the party’s coalition in a swing state.

That political calculus alienated a key voting bloc, although likely not large enough to have shifted the ultimate election outcomes, that should be part of a durable Democratic majority. But few will ever be held accountable for that choice.

A Fetterman staffer condemning Uncommitted for not advocating for Palestinians 'the right way' is like an arsonist scolding the fire department for using the wrong hose.

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[–] Intergalactic@lemmy.world 43 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

It is truly sad that the Democratic Party has become this incompetent.

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I don't think it's incompetence. After-all they have successful defended the corporate duopoly for at least 50 years, probably longer. Sure there are some upstarts, but the machinations of the party ensure those people never get to actually threaten the status quo. Plus they make good sound-bytes so that the democrats can talk about how they are "fighting," in unspecific ways.

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[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

The fact that their candidates can openly taunt their own supposed constituency about having only one alternative to their own candidacy should be more than enough to elucidate how the Democrat establishment sees itself.

--A candidate doesn't need to be particularly competent to play the role of the controlled opposition.

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[–] meowmeowbeanz@sh.itjust.works 41 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Ah yes, the DNC’s ”strategy”—alienate everybody who isn’t a suburban wine mom or AIPAC donor. Brilliant. Why bother with Michigan families mourning Israeli airstrikes when you can pander to Fetterman’s Fox News cosplay?

Harris couldn’t even fake it. No Palestinian speaker, no policy shift, no spine. Just the same ”don’t rock the boat” calculus that’s sinking their coalition faster than a lead balloon in Lake Michigan.

Here’s the kicker: they’ll blame voters for staying home instead of owning their cowardice. Meanwhile, Uncommitted gets torched for not advocating ”the right way”—as if there’s a polite way to demand basic humanity. Spoiler: there isn’t.

Democrats didn’t just lose—they fumbled their soul.

[–] cashsky@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Harris campaign: why aren't you embracing our flavor of fascism, the flavor of warhawks like Cheney and genocide?

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[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 39 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Imagine supporting genocide in order to win, but then losing anyway.

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[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 36 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

honestly disgusted by how meager and purely symbolic the demands made by the uncommitted movement were

as if getting every single thing on that list would have spared a single life

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 50 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

All they demanded was basically a lip service and they didn't get even that

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

They had a foolish belief in the humanity of their oppressors. That being asked to look their victims in the face would give them pause.

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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

The biggest group that stayed home after voting dem in 2020 were older white men/women and hispanic men

The protest votes were a non factor in comparison

The media blew this out of proportion to make leftists infight

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

"Leftists?" None of us are infighting as far as I know. Did you mean "Liberals?"

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Leftists are always infighting, but not about DNC ghouls

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[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 week ago

It's time to let go of blame for Trump election, even if DNC is not the right solution. It's not voters to blame. Both voter suppression, and provisional ballot shenanigans are enough to account for electoral college victory. That groups who failed to turn out, oppose Trump now, is more important than yelling at them.

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