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Example: Traffic Speed. Everyone always exceed the speed limit on highways. Why do we still have the limit? Like, either enforce it, or remove it. This stuff doesn't make sense at all.

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[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 10 points 1 day ago

In general speed limits are enforced IMO, just within a certain level. IE yes everyone exceeds the speed limit... but typically by set amounts. IE I know myself I generally go 9 over the speed limit. I expect to get a ticket if I go 11-20 over the speed limit.

That being said, yeah the social construct is probably intentionally encouraged by cops, so that say when they are pulling over random minorities for an excuse to search the car, they have an automatic excuse for why they pulled them over.

[–] Fleppensteijn@feddit.nl 1 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Traffic speed? If you know where all the speed cameras are, you could dodge them and hope there are no other police checking you.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Oh, about that: China also randomly flies drones that patrols the highways. Of couse, that's getting into the Authoritarian territory, and people in Democracies don't like it, but it is an option.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 6 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Do you think traffic speeds aren't enforced? Just because they can't do it effectively because they don't have the resources or man power doesn't mean they don't try.

[–] heavydust@sh.itjust.works 1 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

I live in the south of France. I see cops cars using speed radars once a year. Once a fucking year. They do NOT enforce anything. If they did, half the population would be unemployed.

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[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Anecdotally, I’ve almost never get pulled over in traffic, but the one time I was pulled over, I was doing 76 in a 65 at 5 AM with no other cars on the road and otherwise driving completely fine.

I guess he was bored. Or an asshole. Or both.

Edit: Fixed my paradox

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Both times I've ever been pulled over for speeding the road was empty except me and i was going the average speed people drive on them. 3 people doing 20 over, a cop can shrug and say i don't wanna pick one to ticket. A single car not only sticks out as speeding more easily, but there also isn't much of an excuse for the cop not to pull them over.

Counter intuitively, its easier to get away with speeding when the roads are busy because you blend in. The biggest things you want to avoid when speeding and busy is agressive behaviors and frequent passing. Make it seem more casual and you will blend in with the flow of traffic.

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[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

Take jaywalking for example. Most people aren't going to be bothered by some woman crossing the street when no cars are around.

Is it worth a cops time who's within eyeshot to do anything about it? Waste of resources, she's not endangering anyone.

Same situation but cars are all over, some swerving to avoid or slam on their breaks because she blindly runs out. She gets hit or cars pile into each other.

Cops in eyeshot. Well the drivers certainly are not the ultimate cause of this accident.

That's my guess anyways.

[–] Diddlydee@feddit.uk 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How do you expect constant enforcement? I'll go over the speed limit on the motorway when it's quiet and the lane is empty. Police generally don't care if you're doing 75 or 80 in a 70, as long as you're not driving like an ass. The most important thing is keeping pace with traffic.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How do you expect constant enforcement?

China did it.

They put cameras all over the highways, just mail them the fines and use the video recording as evidence.

I mean, you don't even need China's authoritarianism to acheive this, traffic cameras already exist in many democratic countries, just add more along the highway.

[–] cumberboi@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Not sure how cost effective this would be :/

In China, they made up the costs from the fines they received... so its actually quite profitable, because people just can't resist the urge to speed.

I think the bigger problem isn't the costs, it's that there might be backlash and protests in a democracy.

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[–] atro_city@fedia.io 2 points 1 day ago

Counter question: do you think everyone is sensible?

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 3 points 1 day ago

Tools in the toolbox. You'll often hear about police saying they need more tools in the toolbox. What it means is they want to be able to enforce laws against somebody they don't like selectively.

If you enforce the speed limit religiously, especially around State capitals, the speed limits would rapidly change.

https://archive.org/details/threefeloniesday0000silv

If this topic interests you, I recommend reading three felonies a day, by Harvey silverglate

[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Everyone always exceed the speed limit on highways

You're projecting yourself

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[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 0 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

just magically "enforce" it with no unintended consequences, please

[–] beerclue@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Well, tell that to my local traffic authorities. My wife basically has a subscription with them, we get home a monthly invoice for 30€ because she was driving 55-60 km/h in a 50 zone... Complete with a picture of her face and the car's license plate :)

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Maybe she should stop speeding?

Or learn where the cameras are?

[–] angrystego@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The point was that at some places speed limits ARE enforced.

[–] heavydust@sh.itjust.works 0 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

The point is that his wife should not be a potential killer.

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[–] beerclue@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If it only was that easy. I don't know if 5km/h over the limit is "speeding", she just doesn't pay attention, and we've been having this discussion for years... I am trying to convince/teach her how to use the speed limiter, but she always forgets to enable that. And the cameras are not static around here. There are a couple static ones, but the vast majority are mobile. They look like small black boxes on wheels, like a power distribution point. Until you see the flash light :)

[–] Naich@lemmings.world 2 points 1 day ago

Should she be driving if she's that bad at it?

[–] mortimer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I got caught once by a speed camera doing 65 in a 50 zone. The camera was in an unmarked van parked on the motorway lay-by (conveniently just after some temporary road works). A few days later the postman delivers a fine in the mail, so I ignored it as it wasn't sent by recorded delivery (so no proof of receipt). Now, by law in the UK, the police have 21 days to inform you of the offence and three weeks later I get another letter from the cops informing me that I have an unpaid fine. So I write to them and tell them that I never received it and that I have no recollection of being on that road. They then send me photographic evidence of my car being caught at 65 mph in a 50 zone and that I am obliged, by law, to declare who was driving. I write back and inform them that it was so long ago I have no memory of who might have been the designated driver, let alone even being on that road, and that because more than 21 days have passed they have failed to inform me of the offence. They write back with some nonsense about having proof that the letter was sent, but I argue that this isn't proof of receipt and that I'd be guessing if I declared who I think might have been driving that day. Result being that I never heard from them again.

[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

On top of what others said there's also just virtue signaling, like banning pornography or gambling.

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