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[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 34 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Except for state laws-- usually california, no limits on ammo purchases. Purchase 5 million rounds if thats what you need for um, deer hunting. Nothing over 50 cal, but 50 cal is fine. Mount it on your pickup truck or your own armored vehicle I guess. 50 cal ammo is 3 bucks per round for the cheap stuff so that adds up. Not a gun for the poors to own. You can own a tank if you want to, but theres a lot of laws around making it street legal, depending on the tank's weight.

Operating a tank is a paperwork nightmare, which is another reason why Americans are so cynical about their government.

(/s)

[–] zaph@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

You can own a tank if you want to, but theres a lot of laws around making it street legal, depending on the tank's weight.

What if I just want a little joy ride through San Diego as a treat?

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What do you mean I can't have a Warhammer 40k type of missile launching bolter?

[–] scoobford@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

You can have it so long as it is semiautomatic. There's just a lot of paperwork involved because the bolter itself and each individual round are probably considered destructive devices.

[–] Inucune@lemmy.world 143 points 4 days ago (6 children)

A reminder this was during a time period we all collectively agreed to ignore Arnold's accent for narrative purposes.

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago

My theory, at least for purposes of The Terminator, is that after Judgment Day, there were some human holdouts in Austria who sent troops to help fight Skynet, so that's why an Austrian accent would be assigned to an infiltration unit.

I have nothing to say about Terminator 3. That was like three or four timeline modifications later. There's bound to be some reality degradation.

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[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 86 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (7 children)

No. That wouldn't happen in a gun store.

You'd have to go to a gun show.

Edit: a gun show is like comic con, only for guns.

[–] Metz@lemmy.world 52 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

I mean Terminator 1 takes place in 1984. As far a quick search goes, there were no background checks, no assault weapon ban, no waiting period, ..etc

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago (5 children)

I think you could still buy machine guns. No phased plasma rifles though.

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[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Background checks started in '68, they didn't become instant until like '93 because internet but they still existed, I think it was by phone back then. The rest of that isn't around now either except for some states, the national AWB expired 21yr ago, and there's never been national waiting periods.

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[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago (14 children)

Private sales are private sales. Has nothing to do with gun shows, that shit is just ignorance from anti-2a groups/people. The pro2a people have been asking for access to the NICS for years. Even if we had to pay $10 for a BG check to come back as clear or not, but they don't want that because it takes away from their wedge issue.

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[–] Digestive_Biscuit@feddit.uk 29 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I enjoy posts like this where Americans get hooked into the legalities of what guns can be bought, the ammo, whether it's permitted in some states, etc.

It's a movie about a robot from the future which time travelled. And people are questioning the legalities of buying guns in the 80's.

[–] peteypete420@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And also the answer is easy, yes. Then, now, tomorrow, yes you can just buy any gun anywhere you want at any time. To be clear, I am American. Living in Amerikkka. Before posting this I went into my local Starbucks and bought a mortar launcher and a semi automatic pistol. After that I went over to fed ex and printed 3 luigi pistols in 4 different colors.

Could you just imagine the suppression people face in other countries? Calling them colours or whatever it is in the metic system.

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[–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 97 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

Total fiction. Everyone knows you have to go to a unlicensed seller at a gun show in the majority of states for that, not a gun store

[–] festnt@sh.itjust.works 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (9 children)

States Where You Can Buy a Gun at a Gun Show Without a Waiting Period or Background Check

In the following states, private sellers (non-licensed individuals) at gun shows can sell firearms without conducting a background check or imposing a waiting period:

Alabama Alaska Arizona Arkansas Georgia Idaho Indiana Kentucky Louisiana Maine Mississippi Missouri Montana New Hampshire New Mexico North Carolina (only for rifles & shotguns; handguns require a permit) North Dakota Ohio Oklahoma South Carolina South Dakota Tennessee Texas Utah Vermont Virginia West Virginia Wisconsin Wyoming

FREEDOM

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[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (4 children)

unlicensed seller at a gun show

Says people who have never been to a gun show. Find me ONE table that's unlicensed.

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[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 15 points 3 days ago

It doesn't have to be a gun show, can be anywhere. I've legally purchased a handful of guns in random parking lots.

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 40 points 3 days ago
[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 36 points 3 days ago (3 children)

1984? In some states, yeah, It would have been that easy.

[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

In 1984, a full auto would still have been on an NFA registry. Open, rather than closed like today, but still not a simple one step sale.

This is of course, fact checking the finer points of gun law in a movie about a time traveling robot.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

If you find a one in a million firearms store who buys their own stock and resells out back illegally, it still is.

Also some pawn shops, technically anything made before a certain date is an Antique and skips a lot of regulations.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

They'll pry my right to sell a late medieval firearm to children from my cold dead hands.

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[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago

20 years ago in Idaho my buddy who is a Marine took me into Walmart. The only restrictions on our purchases were the bounds of our debit cards.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well, he did come from the future after all. It wouldn't be hard for Skynet to dig through criminal records, court cases, sales records, bank info, etc... and pinpoint where to get an optimal shopping experience for this mission.

[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Part of the plot was that Skynet didn't have great records. The terminator had to use a phone book and go down the line killing Sarah Conners because it didn't know which one was the target

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[–] loaf@sh.itjust.works 52 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It was when I was younger. At 16, I was able to walk into a local gun shop and buy two boxes of 9mm ammo. Shop owner didn't seem to care at all, so my friend (17) went back in weeks later to buy a .22 pistol.

No ID. No anything.

Thankfully, things have changed since then.

[–] Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

You should have got a gun the same caliber as the ammunition.

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[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Changed for the better, right?

[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Better for sure, now kids can buy assault rifles /s

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 24 points 3 days ago (3 children)

He also asks for an "Uzi 9mm" a full-auto machine gun, which you could NOT just buy over the counter at a retail gun store.

[–] JDPoZ@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago (3 children)

There was a ban on selling machine guns to civilians that was passed in 1986.

The original Terminator film came out in 1984. So now? Yes, but then?

Probably accurate.

[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago

Not entirely. Machineguns have, since 1934, been required to be registered with the federal government, and for a normal person individually require a federal approval to buy (a "stamp").

What happened in 1986 was the machinegun registry changed from open to closed. This means, that new machineguns are no longer added to the registry, meaning that for the average person (ie not somebody involved in the industry with their own special licensing) the number of machineguns for sale is limited and supply over time will always be going slowly down.

The process for buying a machinegun is as simple as buying any other NFA item like a silencer/suppressor or an SBR. The cost has skyrocketed thanks to limited supply.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It was in the 80's. The only way he wouldn't have gotten a gun was if he was a stereotype of a gay man and came into the gun store kissing his boyfriend.

[–] AllOutOfBubbleGum@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

"Phased plasma rifle in the 40-watt range."

"Hey, just what ya see, pal."

[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

"Hey wait a minute. Those haven't been invented yet. What are you? Some kind of time traveling killer robot with incomplete historical records. Hang on just one second pal, I gotta go to the back."

[–] Psaldorn@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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[–] CidVicious@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 days ago

In the 80s it was. Nowadays you'd have to pass a background check.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 18 points 3 days ago (5 children)

America? Probably (dunno what guns laws are like Bolivia or the other American countries). The US America? Definitely!

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[–] unknown1234_5@kbin.earth 10 points 3 days ago (5 children)

I mean the accent isn't really relevant (though it would probably get a comment) but the large quantity of guns and ammo would raise suspicion.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago

American Police: "Want to buy some guns? Go right ahead."

Also American Police: "Withdrawing more than $10,000 in cash to pay for it? Get'm boys!"

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[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 18 points 4 days ago

Used to be.

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