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Banned from !palestine@lemm.ee for disagreeing that Trump facilitated a ceasefire in Gaza (lemmy.dbzer0.com)

submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by Zedstrian@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com

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Although personally in favor of Palestinian independence and critical of war crimes committed by Israel in its siege of Gaza, I attempted to explain in a back-and-forth discussion with a user (only afterwards learning was one of the community's two moderators) why protest voting in the 2024 election to "punish" the democrats in favor of the republicans harmed the ultimate interest of reigning in Israeli violence in Palestine.

To further emphasize the damage caused by such a protest vote, I argued that not only is Palestine worse off with Trump elected instead of Harris, but as are a myriad of other social issues. The other user disagreed, arguing that Trump's return to office facilitated the ceasefire, rather than my argument that Netanyahu deliberately delayed it to help Trump get elected.

After my fourth reply post in a reply chain that stemmed from my initial reply to the moderator's comment, I was banned from !palestine@lemm.ee. Having at no point advocated in favor of the violence perpetuated by Israel in Gaza, I think the ban was unjustified, and demonstrates a bad precedent for maintaining echo chambers of moderator opinions, rather than communities that foster discussion.

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[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 11 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

If it is worth anything I acknowledge that I can't mod the community on my own anymore and I am looking for mods. The thread that lead to the massive bans had users tacitly or blatantly celebrating the genocide and how worse it might get for Palestinians in the future.

Apply here: https://lemm.ee/post/53822281

I am also willing to handover the community entirely and become a normal member. I'm too emotionally invested in the cause. Not sure how to do this though.

I will not be seeing the responses here. I am temporarily blocking the community to save [what's left of] my sanity.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago

I think this game theory analysis of why the Gaza ceasefire took so long is really interesting.

https://youtu.be/q-Hzq6iMIi0

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

YDI. I like the whitewashing of your own actions here. To go into the comm for an occupied people in the middle of a genocide and start telling them they deserved it is disgusting, and you're filth for doing so.

[–] Zedstrian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Never in anything I wrote did I say that any Palestinian deserves the horrors that Israel has inflicted and continues to inflict upon them.

While I am against the actions of Hamas, since terrorism won't solve anything, Israel has committed crimes far worse in comparison (approximately 60,000 Palestinians killed versus approximately 1,000 Israelis). There's no doubt that Israel has gone far and beyond their stated goal of terrorism prevention to instead make progress towards their goal of clearing Gaza out for Israeli settlement.

The problem is that most Americans don't share my view on the issue of Palestine, and still view the Palestinians as instigators of violence, which is among the reasons why neither the republicans nor democrats were ever going to drop support for Israel. The best course of action, in my opinion, would have been to pick Harris to at least get the better long-term course of action for Palestine, rather than the increased risk of Israeli expansionism after Trump's re-election.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 44 points 1 week ago (10 children)

You're presenting a selective history.

And yes, although the Israeli army has plenty of war criminals that should be sent to The Hague along with Netanyahu for their actions in Palestine, Lebanon, and Syria, Hamas was never justified in kidnapping Israeli citizens in the first place. Terrorism is never justified, and terrorists on both sides deserve to be tried for their war crimes, as should be the case in any war.

I suspect that is why you were banned. Nothing about Trump. People like to do this, present one complimentary fact about their case and pretend that innocent thing was the whole reason for the response, instead of the less complimentary things they also did.

You are not by any means wrong in that statement. Hamas has no right to kill, rape, and kidnap a bunch of young Israeli civilians who have nothing to do with the occupation except having happened to be born in a country whose government is committing atrocities, and no amount of war crimes by the IDF would give them that right. However, I will have to say that trying to say that true fact in a Palestine community specifically, is probably a tactical error, and will lead to no good outcome and often to a ban.

PTB, I guess, technically, but asking people whose family members are being killed to sit still while you to tell them their side is also the bad guys is quite a lot to ask.

If it were me, I would focus more specifically on the fact that letting Trump get elected has now absolutely doomed everyone in Gaza and quite a lot of people in the West Bank. With Biden it was already a genocide. Under Trump, it's now going to be an accelerated genocide, with much grander scope and ambition.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

If it were me, I would focus more specifically on the fact that letting Trump get elected has now absolutely doomed everyone in Gaza and quite a lot of people in the West Bank.

Yup. Trump just started pressuring Jordan and Egypt to take more Palestinian “refugees”. I never saw the Democrats advocating for forced deportations despite all their other enablement.

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