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[–] ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.com 86 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Now to reply to the post itself, I think this sums it up:

As we say in Germany, if there's a Nazi at the table and 10 other people sitting there talking to him, you got a table with 11 Nazis.

Though the sad truth is that almost every single product or service we use are owned and run by people with similar opinions, it is literally the nature of the capitalist beast, it's how it function, and why it will always decay in to fascism - because those with the power and the money (not just those at the very very top, but several levels bellow them, too, like this guy) will always and forever care solely about maintaining it and creating more for themselves, that's it. And to do that, they have to side with whichever dictator-du-jour benefits them the most.

Remember - there is no ethical consumption under capitalism, and this is only one of the reasons why.

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[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sounds like the CEO of proton doesnt understand the basic privacy concerns for the US VPN market. He should really look that up someday-- theres money to be made in the Us market if he cared enough.

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[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 105 points 1 day ago (2 children)

andy88, if he cares about proton, should have resigned yesterday

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 48 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (15 children)

Isn't 88 neo-Nazi code for "heil Hitler"? And isn't putting it in binary to disguise it evidence that he knows full well what it means?

[–] Trent@lemmy.ml 122 points 1 day ago (5 children)

As much as I'm not terribly fond of the guy, IIRC he's 36, which makes '88' likely short for 1988, the year he was born.

[–] ZeroCool@feddit.org 41 points 1 day ago (3 children)

That’s correct, he was asked about it on Reddit too and confirmed it was just his birth year.

Since it’s a common dog whistle though I do think it’s always worth questioning. Particularly when it’s tied to someone licking Trump’s boots.

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 56 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Oh OK, that makes sense. Still, an unfortunate choice of username that could add to the confusion.

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[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

The number 8 is considered the luckiest number in China, and is associated with wealth. The year 1988 also happens to be his birth year.

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[–] Onyx376@lemmy.ml 80 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (32 children)

https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1i2ff6q/call_for_andy_yen_to_resign/

UPDATE: Andy Reply

According to Andy's logic, if Hitler were the president of some unfortunate country, we should differentiate the boss from his good nominees. Even using a company founded by an entire community to show a good evaluation made by one of its founders to give him a loving pat on the back and show the world that he is not completely bad as they think, but not meaning that the founder agrees with all his innocent actions, of course, such as disregarding the rights of many people around the world because they are just part of the democratic game.

[–] CaptSneeze@lemmy.world 62 points 1 day ago (1 children)

“People forget I don’t live in China. Just because I praise Mao for wanting to shed the yoke of cultural tradition, doesn’t mean I necessary support everything he’s doing…” -Andy, if this was 1966

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[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Dont post pictures of text without links to the source

[–] Onyx376@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 day ago

Sorry. I've already added it.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 48 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He's kind of right on the money and kind of being completely dumb.

The fact of it is that Republicans don't want to help privacy or take down big tech's abuses, they want to make it worse. All of the reasonable things Andy has said have taken place past that, so in a way the entire conversation is talking past the point.

The question is, how can somebody so influential at a major privacy company not have such a pre-school understanding of major world figures' relationships to his core business?

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Andy will one day find out that, in the eye of the magat beholder, he is nothing but yellow. I hope he enjoys getting spent as the token he has become.

[–] nb_mess@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 day ago (20 children)

Wait, the proton ceo is a trump supporter? What the fuck, he's the last person I thought would do that

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