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Technically it’s for any printer capable of printing a firearm or the components of a firearm, which is…. every printer. What a bafflingly stupid proposal. If you’re in NY, please call your reps and tell them to oppose this bill.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Surely it would be much easier to require checks to buy ammunition.

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 4 points 2 days ago

As a 2nd amendment loving American, I cosign your idea. I'm fine with getting a license to purchase more ammo.

However, I'll make my own before I pay extortion prices.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 2 points 2 days ago

As people told me yesterday, apparently my state (California) already does that.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 31 points 3 days ago

Luigi had no background to check.

This is pure flail.

[–] NineMileTower@lemmy.world 182 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Luigi would have passed a background check.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 71 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And didn't even use his own printer (according to his confession/manifesto)..

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 44 points 4 days ago (1 children)

was it even printed in new york? I mean im sure someone would never bring one in from jersey.

[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 38 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Everything is legal in New Jersey.

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[–] alleycat@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

If you're european and ask yourself why 3D printed guns are such an issue in the US: It’s not because entire guns are easy to print (or printable at all), It’s because of their idiotic gun laws: in the US, the only controlled part is the receiver or frame, which often enough is made of plastic anyway, while the most important part -the barrel- is freely obtainable.

[...]frames or receivers of firearms are "firearms" as defined in the law and are subject to the same controls as complete firearms."

Germany has a similar law, except that every part of the gun is controlled.

[–] ashley0_0@lemmy.blahaj.zone 39 points 3 days ago (5 children)

new york will do anything but fix actual problems lmao

[–] HurlingDurling@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

My guy, you got to look at it from the bigger perspective, the whole country will do anything buy fix actual problems

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[–] BrazenSigilos@ttrpg.network 13 points 3 days ago

Again. This bill was introduced last year, by the same person, and it died at the time because of some grassroots actions. Now, the wording is slightly different (so it can be introduced again as a "different" bill), and it's being tried again.

[–] megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 3 days ago

Oh boy can’t wait for them to ban two pipes that fit inside each other and a nail.

[–] SloppyPuppy@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What about a bunch of stepper motor and some plastic. Do I need a background check for that?

[–] fluxx@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

Well, everyone knows only main boards have a serial number, so you need a permit for that. But the rest is a spare part, you can get it freely.

/s

[–] ClydapusGotwald@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Oh don't worry, there will be a third. And a fourth. And a... Well, more and more until it passes

It only has to pass once

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[–] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Im making a charcoal foundry. You gonna card me for briquettes bitchboy?

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

Make a community with a dude that makes potassium and another dude that makes sulfur and then you can really make things go off

[–] azdle@news.idlestate.org 130 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)
  1. FOR PURPOSES OF THIS SECTION, "THREE-DIMENSIONAL PRINTER" MEANS A COMPUTER OR COMPUTER-DRIVEN MACHINE OR DEVICE CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A THREE-DIMENSIONAL OBJECT FROM A DIGITAL MODEL

Well, that's a broad definition. I guess to whomever wrote that, a CNC mill is also a 3d printer.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 107 points 4 days ago (5 children)

It's not like inkjets produce 2 dimensional ink. I'd love to see someone argue in court that it's technically impossible to create a non 3d printer

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[–] RobotZap10000@feddit.nl 50 points 4 days ago (9 children)

A CNC mill seems much more capable of manufacturing firearms than some 300 buck printer.

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[–] tht@social.pwned.page 28 points 3 days ago (3 children)

This is braindead, are they gonna require background checks for the hardware store next?

[–] viking@infosec.pub 9 points 3 days ago

Don't forget sporting goods and kitchen supplies. Heck, you can get a bunch of decent knives in IKEA, better put furniture outlets on a watchlist.

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[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 28 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (6 children)

Are they going to require background checks for purchasing metal working equipment? Or maybe just make it illegal to bring any metal to melting point without a license.

Because you can make guns with metal.

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[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Any engineer worth their salt can do this without a 3d printer. Idiots.

[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

Next up, you’re going to have to register your drill press, lathe, etc.

[–] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 73 points 4 days ago (17 children)

You can also technically make a gun with generic plumbing supplies or you could finagle one with random garbage and a drill bit.

[–] seathru@lemmy.sdf.org 55 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Home Depot background checks are next.

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[–] Marvelicious@fedia.io 12 points 3 days ago

Politicians are such profoundly unserious people.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 58 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (5 children)

Anything to avoid having to actually address the systemic poverty and bigotry ingrained in the system that leads to violence...

From what I understand the "problem" as it's being framed in terms of ghost guns and inner city crime or whatever the buzzword is this year is not hobbyists running off a lower or frame for themselves. None of those guys in the hood and their switches are buying Bambus or building Vorons and suddenly turning into 3D printing gurus -- Someone, or several someones more likely, are deliberately mass manufacturing these things for sale to the criminals which is already thoroughly illegal. Find the gun runners and stomp on them. I thought you guys were supposed to have this big scary police force and surveillance apparatus?

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[–] badbytes@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Lol, I built a 3d printer with a 3d printer.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

You wouldn't download a 3D Printer!

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[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 50 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Awful. Literally banning science, because it can be misused.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (5 children)

We'd better go the full mile. Here's my list of things to be banned, For Our Safety^TM^:

  • 3/4" and 1" galvanized steel pipe and endcaps
  • Cases of matches
  • Acetone
  • Stump killer
  • Milling machines
  • Lathes
  • Drill presses
  • Hydrogen peroxide
  • Salt, Sodium Chloride
  • Stainless steel bolts
  • Benchtop power supplies
  • Sulfur
  • Carbon
  • Water
  • Aluminum foil

I'm sure I can think of others if you give me a minute or two.

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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 29 points 4 days ago

Tell us your corporate paymasters are afraid without saying they're afraid.

[–] Cool_Name@lemm.ee 24 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Someone go ahead and trademark the term "ghost printer."

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[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 32 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

How stupid, I use my printer to print minis for DnD. But, wait, it could theoretically print a gun, better get a background check, and have a waiting period of 6 months... fucking stupid.

Let's try to address the problems that led to this. Nah, let's try to ban stuff instead.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago (3 children)

It won't even be effective. As I pointed out earlier, hoodlums in the ghetto, who are the implicit targets of this, aren't buying Bambus and becoming 3D printing experts overnight just to run off one off-the-books Glock. Someone with five or six brain cells to rub together is printing guns in quantity and selling them to the criminals. Anyone willing to employ that business model can and will simply kit build a printer rather than buying an off the shelf unit, which is certainly not difficult to do. It just adds one extra step to the operation for anyone who truly wants to do this, and 3D printing a working firearm is already a pretty decent commitment especially if you're not already an experienced printer. Especially Glock frames.

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[–] spitfire@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Some actual gun control laws would be better, not to mention universal health care. What’s next on the list? Kitchen knives? Pans, pots? ;)

[–] JayleneSlide@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (5 children)

I grew up in NY. The gun control laws were draconian 45 years ago. I can't imagine they have become more lax since I departed the state 30 years ago.

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[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 36 points 4 days ago (15 children)

Gonna require background checks to get plumbing supplies or to go to the hardware store? Cause I can make a gun a hell of a lot easier and quicker with that shit, than I can with a 3d fuckin printer.

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[–] spitfire@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago (6 children)

How much harder would it be than getting an actual gun?

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