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If you are like me, then you are a huge fantasy fan. It is easily my favorite genre and I have to force myself to read to read other books. But for this list, we will be staying with this genre as we share our list of the 21 must read fantasy books of all time!

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[–] boatswain@infosec.pub 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Here's the list from the article:

The Lord of the Rings Trilogy by J. R. R. Tolkien

A Song of Ice and Fire Series by George R.R Martin

American Gods by Neil Gaiman

His Dark Materials by Philip Pullman

Mistborn Series by Brandon Sanderson

The Wheel of Time series by Robert Jordan

Dune by Frank Herbert

The Night Angel by Brent Weeks

The Night Circus by Erin Morgenstern

The First Law series by Joe Abercrombie

The Dresden Files by Jim Butcher

A Wizard of Earthsea by Ursula K. Le Guin

The Graveyard Book by Neil Gaiman

Discworld by Terry Pratchett

The Fifth Season by N.K. Jemisin

The Way of Kings by Brandon Sanderson

Foundryside by Robert Jackson Bennett

The Hunger Games by Suzanne Collins

The Chronicles of Narnia by C.S. Lewis

The Kingkiller Chronicle, #1 by Patrick Rothfuss

Temeraire by Naomi Novik

For me a lot of these are solid, but some are pretty questionable. I regret the time I spent with Night Angel, for example, and found Hunger Games to be entertaining, but not substantial enough to get past the first book.

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Hunger games also isn't fantasy, it's Sci-Fi.

The fact that it's on the list and not something like Spellmonger tells me the person who made this article isn't really all that passionate about fantasy books and likely based their research off various google results for "popular fantasy series".

[–] emptyother@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Temeraire? Im reading those now, they are okay but not THAT good.

Is Hunger Games fantasy? I haven't read them but the movies makes them seem more like a futuristic dystopia, scifi.

[–] Bebo@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

Nothing to say about a list that ranks Dresden files above earthsea and discworld!

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[–] luffyuk@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Has J. K. Rowling been officially cancelled now?

She might be a horrible person, but Harry Potter absolutely belongs on a list like this IMO.

[–] Subtlysubtle@sffa.community 1 points 1 year ago

For sake of argument, maybe HP is seen as it's own thing now. It's become so ubiquitous it's sort of general fiction and not thought of as grouped with anything.

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[–] IonAddis@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That list reads more like a "21 books that I've read--with a few girl authors I heard were good or famous or black thrown in".

Brent Weeks is not a great author, and while Jim Butcher is consistent in his output (barring the few years where his RL went to shit on him) his Craft suffers in his non-urban fantasy series. (He coasts a LOT on Harry Dresden's voice and charm and culture references, and doesn't get that crutch in his other series and it shows.) I LIKE Jim Butcher, but there's tons of authors that can write circles around him. His career is based on completing books and getting them out the door, not creating masterworks.

Where's Robin McKinley? Robin Hobb? Kate Elliott, who was writing and COMPLETING her Crown of Stars epic fantasy series at the same time Martin and Jorden were writing (and never completed their series)? Lois McMaster Bujold, whose Challion series is just as good as her Vorkosigan series? Jacqueline Carey? And if we're including YA, which the Hunger Games suggests (although as one person pointed out, those are sci-fi), where's Tamora Pierce? Patricia C. Wrede?

The person who wrote that list reads a very specific part of the genre and leaves a LOT of the greats out.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Robin Hobb

Ugh, I disliked the Assassin's Apprentice series. It's written like his mentors have some sort of plan for dealing with Royal, when really the entirety of their plan is "let him do whatever he wants, up to and including getting everyone killed and selling out the entire country". That was the most disappointing, limp-dicked arc to a story I've read among books that are considered good by some people. I kind of enjoyed the first book or two while reading it, but I very much wished I had read something else by the time I was done.

[–] Fazoo@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I would never suggest someone read all of ASOIAF. It just gets ridiculous in length and complexity for no valid reason, and he's likely to die before finishing the series. The first 2-3 books are alright though.

Also, no Hobbit? No Legend of Drizzt? Wtf. RA Salvatore is one of the best.

[–] YodaDaCoda@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I strongly disliked RA Salvatore's writing style. I found it far too flowery which took away from the enjoyment of the story.

[–] Fazoo@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's fair. It's not exactly adult level most of the time. If you want D&D stuff though, War of the Spider Queen might be more palatable. He chaired a round table of 6 authors, each of them writing one book in the series, so if you don't like one style it changes with the next. Post-Drizzt timeline and Drow being Drow. It's my personal favorite.

[–] YodaDaCoda@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

With the WOTC nonsense earlier this year I'm a little reluctant to get into more DnD stuff (my group switched to pf2e), though I still wanna know more about the lore. Thanks for the suggestion though, I'll add that to the list :)

[–] dresden@discuss.online 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What's the WOTC nonsense? For the un-initiated.

[–] Fazoo@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm probably wrong about what they're talking about, but they made some changes in their push to essentially kill off old content. Sword coast or bust, but they've been pushing their world since 3rd edition.

[–] dresden@discuss.online 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah, okay. Thanks for the input!

[–] Fazoo@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh! I just remembered now. They made some changes to their open gaming license which affects a lot of homebrew folks. That could be what the other poster was talking about.

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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some of these books are true must reads, but several are just okay and a couple are downright bad.

[–] Subtlysubtle@sffa.community 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which ones would you leave off?

[–] LoganNineFingers@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Patrick Rothfuss because he's never finishing it. Not that he doesn't deserve it based on merit, but it's irresponsible to recommend him. Authors take time and most will eventually finish one day but it's pretty clear he's not.

[–] Addfwyn@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Read most of these and some I agree with, some I don't.

Weeks is okay, but I don't think Night Angel is a "must read".

I liked the Dresden Files well enough, but I don't think it is must-read either. They were fun reads, but he wouldn't be in the top authors even of urban fantasy specifically.

I don't read them really, but Harry Potter seems influential enough that it should probably be on the list. I might make a case for some Scott Lynch and Robin Hobb to be there too. Sorta surprised neither Terry Brooks nor Terry Goodkind made the cut either, though I haven't personally read them since I was very young.

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[–] hsl@wayfarershaven.eu 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

These lists are so subjective. For example, The Dresden Files have been around for a while, but I wouldn't consider them to be the top of the fantasy genre. Also, no Robin Hobb?

[–] EtnaAtsume@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't dislike Dresden Files but I'm liking it less as it veers further & further from its initial premise. Book 1 and book...er, 16? the latest one...are so tonally different. Power creep, yeah, is part of it, but also it went from "fun noir throwback starring Detective Hard-Boiled" solving things cleverly (and without spellslinging ALL the time) to "what if a Jedi with the power of God and pop culture references on his side fought Irish folklore kaijus while Bigfoot was watching".

Like... I'm strapped in for the ride and enjoying it besides but the series seems to have gotten a lot less intellectually stimulating and than before and is now "big powers do a fighting".

Just me?

[–] hsl@wayfarershaven.eu 1 points 1 year ago

I gave up after book 3 so I don't have much valid input here. :)

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[–] learnbyexample@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Here are some of my favorites:

  • Cradle by Will Wight
  • Mage Errant by John Bierce
  • Howl's Moving Castle by Diana Wynne Jones
  • Legends & Lattes by Travis Baldree
  • The Dragon with a Chocolate Heart by Stephanie Burgis
  • Half a Soul by Olivia Atwater
  • The Riyria Revelations by Michael J. Sullivan
  • Kings of the Wyld by Nicholas Eames
  • The Kingkiller Chronicle by Patrick Rothfuss
  • The Sword of Kaigen by M. L. Wang
[–] serfraser@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

Some of my favs chosen there, so I'll look into your choices I'm not familiar with.

[–] Travesty3@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mistborn series by Brandon Sanderson should be expanded to the entire Cosmere, not just Mistborn. Several other book series in the same universe, and all are very good IMO, e.g. Stormlight Archive, Elantris, and my favorite, Warbreaker.

[–] VeracityMD@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

He has Way of Kings on there as a separate listing, so he's not ignoring the rest of the cosmere

Granted, it's generally a weak list. Night Angel was hot garbage, and eclipsed by Weeks own later series lightbringer even in spite of it's terrible last portion.

[–] serfraser@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Pet peeve of mine but grouping an entire series together as an entry in a list of individual books is so stupid. So many lists do this all over the net.

At least pick a stand out book from the series or something. Sorry but don't promise me a list of 21 books then give me trilogies and series all getting their own single entry.

I came here to complain that there’s way more than 21 books on the list.

[–] YodaDaCoda@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Discworld is a series of over 40 books!

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[–] LoganNineFingers@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (9 children)

These lists are subjective. I'm glad my favourite one is in there (see user name) but it's weird to me that Robin Hobb and Codex Alera aren't on there

Also, stop putting Patrick Rothfuss on these things. His series will never be finished and we should stop getting people stuck on book 2

[–] TheButtonJustSpins@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And where's Raymond Feist?!

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[–] dresden@discuss.online 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well, technically it's 21 series, not books. 😀

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