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When called out on it, they then doubled down on this dogshit take: https://archive.ph/quYyb

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[–] warm@kbin.earth 51 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

If there's a way for the rest of Proton to force him out, now would be a good time to save face.

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[–] LuxSpark@lemmy.cafe 79 points 8 hours ago (5 children)

I'd like to know what maga is going to do for the little guy besides more grifting.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 26 points 8 hours ago

Point at different things and try to blame what they're doing to them on it.

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[–] seathru@lemmy.sdf.org 32 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

PROTIP: Canceling your subscription gives you a place to tell them how you feel (even if you don't end up following through with it).

But damn, where to go from here? Self hosting my own email server and password manager is a little out of my wheel house.

[–] stinerman@midwest.social 5 points 5 hours ago

As people become shittier as time goes on (especially people who run businesses), it will be harder and hard to find someone with your values that will provide a service you want.

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[–] heavydust@sh.itjust.works 71 points 8 hours ago (5 children)

Here is our official response [...] the reality is that Republicans remain more likely to tackle Big Tech abuses.

lol

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 41 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

how? explain how you even come to that conclusion. big tech is running the republicans!

[–] GrundlButter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 8 hours ago

I'm thinking that they must mean tackling the abuse of big tech. Like taxes, and regulations, and pesky things like the justice system. Accountability is woke.

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[–] compostgoblin@slrpnk.net 21 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

I could handle it if it was the CEO’s personal position - still gross, but whatever. To have this be the company’s official political position, though, I think I’m out.

Recommendations for alternative email and cloud storage providers? Mullvad seems the way to go for VPN

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[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 20 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

I... very much do not like this. But the reality is that tech companies are FULL of libertarian tech bro types who only care about "policy" as it equates to their bottom line. And a LOT of companies are going to suck up to trump in the hopes of not being made an example of by the wannabe mafia administration. And the follow up response is still bullshit but it is useful idiot bullshit, if that makes sense.

Gonna look for alternatives but not optimistic.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 11 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

And a LOT of companies are going to suck up to trump in the hopes of not being made an example of by the wannabe mafia administration.

I could almost excuse that if they were American, but they are Swiss, as is Andy.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 9 points 6 hours ago

They do a lot of business in the US and would likely not want to get banned at a time when people are genuinely looking for a VPN that doesn't pretend it will fight off seal team six for you or an email service that isn't run by google.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Louis Rossmann also has "Libertarian" vibes... 😖

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 17 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Rossman has straight up chud vibes from when he was ranting about the situation where someone was allegedly screaming slurs at a delivery person through their amazon doorbell.

Also he is a guy who had to flee NYC because he couldn't run a business with regulations and instead go to Texas (?).

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

What happened there? I didn't know he left NYC, I used to pass off more difficult electronics repairs to that string of repair shops near Mott st, where he was also based.

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[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (11 children)

I wouldn't say he's being "Maga", but this is some "Libertarian" dumb fuck that has no clue what's happeneing in politics.

If you scroll through his twitter, he did praise some things that Biden did, so it seems like he might just be bootlicking whoever is in power as appeasement

Edit: He also seems to be pro-Ukraine and supports the activists in Hong Kong, so basically a Libertarian that leans to the political right. (And also being a huge dumbass)

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[–] RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.works 35 points 8 hours ago (11 children)
[–] Shirasho@lemmings.world 42 points 8 hours ago (8 children)

You can generally tell what way someone leans when they say "Dems" but spell out "Republicans".

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[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

What the hell does he mean "we campaigned extensively"? Republicans did? And why is he including himself in that? He's not an American and therefore shouldn't be campaigning for a goddamn thing. And if he's quoting JD Vance then that part should actually be in quotes.

Who do Schumer's daughters lobby for? What's the name of the lobby? What have they lobbied for that's actually passed and was it supported by Democrats and Republicans? Like is he gonna post actual policy or anything that Republicans have put forth for antitrust? Or is he just spouting off and doubling down in order to be defensive with little to no actual facts to back up his claims.

He could have talked about Gail Slater's track record and why she's a good fit. Instead he talked some nonsense straight from the mouth of JD Vance and pulled some random whataboutism.

Don't you have a PR team? Like Proton, as a whole should be trying to fix this.

I also love that a user literally came with receipts and he has yet to respond.

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 19 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

Andy here, since it's my original post that's being reposted here, let me comment further.

My post is talking about Gail Slater, who is by all measures, actually a good pick, with a solid track record of being on the right side of the antitrust issue. Yes, she happens to be nominated by Trump, but her record speaks for itself.

This is not going to be a popular opinion, but on the specific issue of antitrust, Democrats fell short. In 2022, we campaigned extensively in the US for anti-trust legislation. Two bills were ready, with bipartisan support. Chuck Schumer (who coincidently has two daughters working as big tech lobbyists) refused to bring the bills for a vote. In the aftermath of this failure, great people like former Democratic rep David Cicilline left congress, leaving few strong voices for antitrust left in the Democratic party. In the meantime, at a 2024 event covering antitrust remedies, out of all the invited senators, just a single one showed up - JD Vance.

By working on the front lines of many policy issues, we have seen the shift between Dems and Republicans over the past decade first hand. And that's a missed opportunity for Dems, because by and large, support for cracking down on corporate monopolies is popular on both sides of the political spectrum. Unfortunately, corporate capture of Dems is real and in the end money won. It is hard to see how this changes, and Republicans are likely to lead the antitrust charge in the coming years.

From that perspective, and going back to my original post, Gail is a great pick. One should not equate our support of Gail for Proton not being neutral anymore. We continue to call out bad behavior from both sides, whether it's Dems or Republicans, on our core issues. Just a few weeks ago, we were called out for being in bed with Soros because we gave money to too many "liberal" organizations: https://proton.me/blog/2024-lifetime-fundraiser-results No, the Proton Foundation isn't the new Soros either (even if we may coincidentally fund some of the same things sometimes). We simply stick with our strongly held core believes, and leave politics out of it, because the issues we care about, should be apolitical.

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[–] BakedCatboy@lemmy.ml 11 points 6 hours ago

Damn, and I just switched to proton because they have port forwarding and moderate NAT so that I can effectively seed torrents.

[–] ReluctantZen@feddit.nl 20 points 7 hours ago

That the democrats don't stand for the little guys anymore is something I agree with, but to then say the republicans do is wild

[–] ctag@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 5 hours ago

Now's probably not a bad time to mention I've used fastmail for years and it's great.

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