When called out on it, they then doubled down on this dogshit take: https://archive.ph/quYyb
Wow. And I had just about now completed moving my addresses over, fucking hell
Mullvad then I guess?
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How did both him and and the rest of the board think this was a smart thing to stand by? Does he really think people interested in privacy also support Trump?
What a way to alienate your entire customer base
I hope you all see thru Trump's Big Tech bullshit. It's not to reign them in to make America competitive - or whatever other horseshit he spews out of that asshole he calls a mouth. It's to get rid of the others so that he controls and censors the fuck out of the only avenue of social communication like his handlers.
Little guys? Like Coca Cola?
Maybe he hit his head or has been replaced by bizarro Andy yen. In any case I can't believe he would do this to his own company. I started to give him the benefit of the doubt until he updated his statement saying that JD Vance cares about privacy and antitrust... I was like bro okay in done.
"worked in media at Fox" the TV Cabinet expands! Yikes.
It's all just propaganda. Media people will be helpful in that endeavor.
Well thats a fuckin shame.
Good to know. Bye Proton.
Well I no longer will be recommending proton to people. Can't trust anyone this stupid with privacy.
I use Proton mail, any recommendations for alternatives?
If encryption is a must, then use Tuta. German company, privacy focused, open source all around, no surveillance, free tier with encryption available, encrypted calendars, accessible paid subscriptions with actually useful services.
Posteo
Keep a proton for situations where you can actually use the encryption. Most of the time the encryption is as useless as a VPN.
Also keep in mind all it is is pgp with a directory lookup. I think proton made their pgp directory lookup more open in the last few years, so it may not have any real benefits.
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Looks like I'm stuck with nord and their shitass torrent support lmao
Just canceled my subscription and let them know in the comments it was because of this.
I did the same. Also mailed them asking to cancel my account and refunding me the remaing balance.
It's a shame. As soon as my current VPN ran out, I was going to give them some money. I guess he should have kept his MAGA thoughts to himself.
Same, especially because I can't get on Pornhub without one anymore!
Definitely no conflict of interest from this chode.
Same
I can deal with Andy Yen being a dumbass in his own time, but the official Proton reddit account doubling down on this shit is over the line for me.
I literally just renewed for 2 years a couple days ago. I will be looking for alternatives and hopefully I can get a partial refund or something.
There’s Mullvad.
Unfortunately I made the mistake of really digging myself into the Proton ecosystem.
My current plan is:
VPN -> Mullvad
Mail -> Tuta
Pass -> Bitwarden (not sure if I want to host yet)
Drive -> Nextcloud (Self-Hosted)
Calendar -> Nextcloud (Self-Hosted)
Standard Notes -> Memos (Self-Hosted) (already done)
Simple Login -> no fucking clue, I am dreading migrating these.
Great guide! I believe Tuta has the simple login functions.
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Mentioning that Democrats are trash on dealing with corporations is just fine. Good, even.
Lying through your god damn teeth that Republicans are going to do anything other than lie to gain more leverage for their jihad to fuck over their fellow man is delusional at best.
This wouldn't have anything to do with US internet restrictions would it? Like how multiple states place age verification on porn sites? Like how more restrictions would pop up in a MAGA admin to keep it "safe".
That wouldn't benefit Proton at all now would it? They don't serve a product that would circumvent those restrictions right? A product they sell?
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Getting real fuckin tired of having to always find 'alternatives'. Can't yall rich bastards just stop being weird and be content with making good products. Just cause you have money, doesn't mean you need to have a public opinion on anything, ever
This is what I feel is the core problem of out-of-bounds capitalism today. 50-80 years ago there were fabulously wealthy people as well, but they were taxed out the wazoo and were still fabulously wealthy. And even though every corporation's goal is, and always has been, to make profit, it feels as if it's gone from "profit" to "maximum possible profit at ALL costs, including the damnation of life on the planet".
We have plenty of examples of hypercapitalism destroying us in fiction (cyberpunk etc.) but our current reality is really really close to that hellscape. In some ways it's actually worse because of the insidiousness and banality of the evil that lords over us daily.
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People forget that the current antitrust actions against Big Tech were started under the first Trump admin.
So shut the fuck up Andy, you're out of your element.
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ivpn and Tutanota for email/calendar/contacts. And honestly, if you're comfortable with self hosting your own stuff, Nextcloud can manage your files, calendar, contacts and all kinds of other stuff.
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Fuck. I was procrastinating on buying into their VPN and drive service to de-googlify. Looks like that's off the menu and I am deleting all my burner accounts now. Fucking bruh.
Mullvad is better and cheaper VPN
Sync, icedrive, filenio, etc are fine storage options
Yeah, it was more convenient to have a "all under one roof" approach with email and stuff too, which is why i wanted to switch... But ain't gonna touch that dumpster fire for sure.
I was thinking about perhaps moving things to Proton, being European and all, and touting privacy etc. Looks like that won’t happen.
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