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I saw a post that talked about racism towards people and when I talked about it the response I got was very heated and a person even called lemmy.world a community of 'hitlerites'

I have been around for a week or so and this is my first time seeing such explicit vulgar reaction towards another community, is this a one-off or should I block hexbear?

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[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 22 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

I'll do you one better, why is Hexbear??

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 19 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (3 children)

Hexbear.net is a Left-Unity instance populated mainly by Marxists and Anarchists. They generally don't get along with Lemmy.world, whose admins defederated from the major Marxist-aligned instances.

Whether you block Hexbear is up to you, I enjoy my time there a lot but it's also because I'm a Marxist. The ones saying they are "pretending" to be Leftist never seem to be able to explain why a large group of people would all ironically have theory reading groups and ironically support trans rights for years, even before federating with anyone else. What would they have to gain?

If I were you, I'd ask on an instance actually federated with them. You'll get different perspectives than you will here, which is always the case when it comes to controversial topics like Marxism, where opinion varies greatly from instance to instance.

[–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Credit where credit is due, youre honest and youre correct. Have my upvote!

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[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

is it possible for lemmy user to "federate them in"/include in single feed?

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[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 20 points 13 hours ago

You should block hexbear

[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 38 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (3 children)

Hexbear, lemmygrad and (in great part) lemmy.ml are tankie instances.

They basically deny any crimes of Stalin, Mao etc…

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[–] tht@social.pwned.page 3 points 10 hours ago

Its a leftist space that sometimes has trolls

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 18 points 16 hours ago

"Anyone right of me is Hitler" sounds pretty on point for them. Instance block and move on with your day.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 128 points 22 hours ago (6 children)

TLDR: they are right-wingers pretending to be left wing

[–] SatyrSack@feddit.org 12 points 14 hours ago (6 children)

What does the Y axis represent here?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 10 hours ago

Technically, the X-axis doesn't represent anything either, as the far-right plot point curves upward, rather than continuing.

[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

"Y" is the name of one of the major meme/shitpost contributors on lemmy.ml

The amount of mental gymnastics being done to justify their ideology

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

It looks like another way of drawing the political compass left/right (collective vs individual rights) on the x axis and authoritarian/libertarian (obedience to centralized authority hierarchy vs distributed political pluralism) on the y axis. Tankies and far right would be in auth q1 and q2, far left q3, and not representing q4 labeling the quadrants from top left clockwise.

[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago

Separation from reality, maybe?

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[–] weeeeum@lemmy.world 38 points 20 hours ago (5 children)

I love this image. Something that always confused me is that they are communist, but support russia? An extremely far right government?

[–] tht@social.pwned.page 6 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

"Tankie" here, russia sucks

What makes you a "tankie" if you don't share their beliefs?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

There's no support for the Russian Federation. Support for the USSR? Absolutely, but not the RF. There's critical support, as in the RF currently takes an antagonistic stance towards the United States, which many Leftists see as the greater global evil, but no leftist genuinely thinks the RF is doing that out of "good intentions" or has any model that Leftists should replicate.

That sums it up.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

Support for the USSR? Absolutely

Wait, really? The ones responsible for, among other things, the Holodomor? Those guys? Why?!

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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 38 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

Authoritarians like authoritarian regimes. They'll perform extreme mental gymnastics to reconcile their preconceived notions with reality, like the tankies that declare China to be socialist. Also, most of them see the US as the Great Satan that is responsible for any and all evil in the world. Therefore anybody who opposes the Great Satan must be good.

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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

we don't, we just hate the us more.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It's obvious you hate yourselves most.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml -1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

Why would supposed right-wingers be holding Leftist theory reading groups, hosting mutual aid comms, donating to Palestinian gofundmes, and supporting trans rights to some of the highest degrees on the fediverse? Irony? Seems like a silly hypothesis.

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[–] atro_city@fedia.io 24 points 18 hours ago

Wow, I was wondering why I hadn't blocked a single hexbear or lemmy.ml user here: my instance did it for me! I've had multiple accounts on multiple servers and consistently had to block hexbear users until finally blocking hexbear outright. It's been a much better experience then.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 48 points 22 hours ago (5 children)

Hexbear, lemmygrad.ml and lemmy.ml are the "Tankie Triad".

Hexbear is the worst most extreme of them and lemmy.ml is the least which is why they've managed to avoid getting defederated from world (either that or because they're like the third largest instance behind only .world and SJW)

Hexbear is pretty widely defederated

[–] Pipster@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (5 children)

A lot of .ml users and communities are there just because it was the only big instance much earlier on. I'm in no way a tankie but still use .ml a lot (a community I run is on there) because it was the first one I made and i'm too lazy to look into new instances or switch.

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[–] archonet@lemy.lol 32 points 21 hours ago (6 children)

block hexbear, lemmygrad, and lemmy.ml. And any user named "UniversalMonk" on any instance. You'll thank me later.

[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 27 points 20 hours ago

I'd probably be more selective about blocking users from lemmy.ml, but I'm a bit biased in the question given the server I chose when I joined Lemmy

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[–] DosDude@retrolemmy.com 52 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I would block hexbear. I've done it server-wide. They are mostly very loud trolls pretending to be communists. Some could be actual communists, but I don't buy anyone actually wanting to be in such a toxic environment and believe what they claim to believe.

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