this post was submitted on 10 Jan 2025
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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards

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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.

Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.

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Vegans being banned and comments being deleted from !vegan@lemmy.world for being fake vegans.

From my perspective, the comments were in no way insulting and just part of completely normal interaction. If this decision reflects the general opinion of the mod team, then from my perspective, the biggest vegan community on Lemmy wants to be an elitist cycle of hardcore vegans only, not allowing any slightly different opinion. Which would be very unfortunate.

PS: In contrast to the name of this community, I don't want to insult anyone here being a 'bastard'. I just want to post this somewhere on neutral ground. I would really appreciate an open discussion without bashing anyone.

PPS: Some instances or clients seem to compress the screenshots in a way they're unreadable. Find the full resolution here: https://imgur.com/a/8XdexTm

Linking the affected users and mods: @Cypher@lemmy.world @gaael@lemmy.world @gredo@lemmy.world @iiGxC@slrpnk.net @veganpizza69@lemmy.world @veganpizza69@lemmy.vg @jerkface@lemmy.ca @TheTechnician27@lemmy.world @Sunshine@lemmy.ca @Aqua@lemmy.vg

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[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

PTB. vegans deserve better representation in their leaders than this i hope we can get an alternative community that can allow discussion without weird purity purges.

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[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Vegan restaurant

Adds meat to its menu

What

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 15 points 1 week ago

*Former Vegan Resturant

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I mean what level of vegan are you? Do you eat anything that casts a shadow?

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[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Is Sunshine Beaver's alt? If so then yeah i could understand why this happen.

[–] rbn@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I don't know about this and I also don't know if she is the one who deleted the comments and triggered the bans. In general, I appreciate her content. She is posting lots of interesting articles (not only in the vegan community) and I guess Lemmy needs people like her providing content to debate about.

Just if debate is not desireable, then I don't think it makes sense to post it to a social platform. Social platforms without interaction and different opinions are just dead link lists. Then I can also just set up a RSS reader on the news sites I'd like to follow.

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 11 points 1 week ago

No dispute here, i'm just saying this sorta remind me of the controversy beaver kick off 4 months ago in the vegan community, behaviour-wise it's very similar.

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[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago

Dang, an actual PTB!

Defining removing the comments was already borderline PTB, though one can argue that since vegans tend to insist on dealt strict policies in vegan C/s, that it is within bounds to remove comments and posts as needed to maintain their space.

But holy shit, the "you aren't a real vegan" went right off the rails. And then bans for it. That's not even crossing the line in this specific case, it's kicking the line and spitting on its grave.

Mind you, sometimes it's necessary to ban people that aren't an actual part of the specific group a forum/community is for. It is case specific whether or not someone is power tripping.

But this case is soooo far into power tripping it's almost a parody

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 week ago

Definitely PTB.

[–] zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I thought the vegans left lemmy.world.

[–] illi@lemm.ee 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Seems like mods are helping those left behind

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

One of the first communities I blocked.

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[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

PTB for sure, they're removing comments not 100% in support of them which is iffy, but now they are trying to decide that people aren't real vegans because they don't agree with the mods, WTF?!?

Also is it just me or does this mod seem like they might be an Alt of Beaver (a previous mod of the Vegan community who was removed from the community for power-tripping) was known for making alts and trying to sneak herself back in as mod a few times with her alts, as well as fostering ill will towards the mod who removed her using her alt accounts. She ultimately deleted her accounts after being called out for the behavior and when these tactics weren't working.

@TheTechnician27@lemmy.world Maybe you might want to look into this, it's very possible the person who was power-tripping before was somehow able to get back in as a mod on an alt account without you or other mods knowing it was them.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Militant vegans always seemed cult-like to me, and nothing reinforced that idea more than seeing posts from the vegan group on here.

Didn't take long for me to block that community.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

I can't read that but yeah the Vegan community here has a long history of being total assholes.

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