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Honestly? That I would rather have Meta (and a bunch of Western countries, while we're at it) lift restrictions on that front first before they go against LGBT people.

I'm not on board with the idea that edgy or offensive humor is valuable in itself, but I absolutely abhor the scenario where offended conservative and traditionalist views are treated in their own terms while marginalized groups are considered needy or nagging if they ask for the same treatment.

Also not on board with comedians assuming that noting their ignorance or bigotry is the same as not having a sense of humor, incidentally. Everybody sucks, is my point.

My opinion is that satire must hurt. Otherwise it may have no impact, then it is nothing else than cheap comedy. But it is possible that it hurts too much, so that some people cannot endure it. Society has a duty to protect the weak as well as the artists. It is a narrow line.

Obviously it's horrible to kill people over speech. Cartoons do not justify violence or terrorism.

But we also shouldn't pretend like speech is necessary or valuable just because it's offensive or that offending people to the point of violence is noble.

If someone was killed for saying the n word that would be a tragedy and should be condemned. But we shouldn't all go around yelling the n word just to assert our free speech or pretend like the guy saying the n word was a hero for doing it.

Satire’s dead, but I’d love to see a revival of both it and serious human existence within my lifetime c:

I'm all for satire, but I also think this was kind of bullying in that they did something that was offensive specifically to a particular marginalized minority group.

So it's not something that should be illegal or warrant a shooting, but I'm not exactly surprised. Just as if they published a story like "Fuck this one guy's mother" showing a drawing of some random guy's mother being fucked.* That guy doesn't then have a right to shoot them and should go straight to prison if he does - but I wouldn't be surprised and I don't think we all need to identify with the paper or anything because they were being total pricks.

*And I know the response will be along the lines of "You can't compare that drawing with a mere drawing of mohammed". But that betrays a failure to take another perspective. Who's to say that in a society even more liberal than our own, "fuck your mother" might be seen as not particularly insulting? After all, take away expectations of women being pure and you basically have "fuck your dad" which really doesn't seem too insulting, it's like sure if that's what you're into weirdo, but let me check with my dad first.