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[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago
[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 41 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Luckily, this is the epitome of that Epicurus quote:

Why should I fear death? If I am, then death is not. If Death is, then I am not. Why should I fear that which can only exist when I do not?

[–] jwt@programming.dev 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Why should I fear death? If I am, then death is not. If Death is, then I am not

Death will be, so we will cease to be. Sounds like he ~~is~~ was whistling past the graveyard with that quote...

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 0 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

And when you do, you no longer have to worry about it. In fact, you can't.

[–] jwt@programming.dev 1 points 2 hours ago

Not much of a consoling thought to me.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago

Well, maybe it's because we mostly fear the WAY towards death, not the end of being a thing that is. Unless we get hit by a moving train...

[–] threeduck@aussie.zone 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You know how when you get put under for anaesthesia, and you don't notice the time you were gone? It's like a cut in the tape of life.

What if death is like that, and BAM your consciousness re-emerges billions of years in the future the moment you die.

But your consciousness is alone. And in pitch black nothingness. Forever.

[–] Earflap@reddthat.com 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This is what I think happens. You don't experience death, you just reemerge on the other side, no matter how long it takes.

The chances of your brain being created were infinitely small before you were born, but it still only took 14 billion years for it to happen.

[–] Famko@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Entropy would end up taking your consciousness as well, so I doubt you'd be there, 14.3 billions years later, forever.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We don't really know what consciousness is, so we can't really be sure that it is subject to entropy.

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 hour ago

We have nothing to indicate anything to the contrary (other than denial)

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's not the death I'm worried about. I just don't want to suffer leading up to it or put my family through some long drawn out ordeal watching me die.

[–] Fridgeratr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Well good news, false vacuum decay would kill everyone on Earth instantly with no warning

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Then I'm not worried about it.

[–] Fridgeratr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Same here. Like, that would obviously suck, but 🤷

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean sure, it'd suck, but no one would be around to think it sucks, so it'd be fine 😎👆👉👆👉

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

How to remove all suffering. Utilitarians hate this simple trick!

[–] Stonewyvvern@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Stop reading my mind!

[–] Godort@lemm.ee 153 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I'm not worried about this specific apocalypse, if only because there is literally nothing that can be done to prevent it nor stop it if it starts.

I'm far more worried about more localized, preventable, human-caused apocalypse like climate or nuclear war.

[–] Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 46 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Also, we won't see it coming and won't feel it happen. As far as deaths go, it's about as easy as it gets.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

on the bonus side takes Trump, Elon, Nigel and Tate with it.

[–] Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean, sure, but everything will cease to exist in a fraction of a second. Singling anyone or anything out seems kind of irrelevant.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Yea but still...

[–] Tower@lemm.ee 16 points 2 days ago

Exactly. Same energy as worrying about Earth being hit by a gamma ray burst - 🤷‍♂️

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[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 68 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How you know the Wikipedia article is good

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

didnt need the wikipedia page. soon as I read a couple pop sci articles on this I was like "welp this shit sounds dangerous it was nice to know you all"

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

I'm about as worried about this as I am about galaxy eating monsters. Not at all, really.

I'm more bothered by our apparently non-existent ability to detect and divert asteroids. More than that, I'm terrified of our habit of using global cataclysm as a strategic threat. But at the same time I feel like a species that acts like this probably should end themselves like that. Russian civilians consent to nuclear apocalypse.

So yeah, not very bothered by idea of false vacuum.

[–] Xanthrax@lemmy.world 78 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

Wikipedia:

"threat

If our universe is in a false vacuum state rather than a true vacuum state, then the decay from the less stable false vacuum to the more stable true vacuum (called false vacuum decay) could have dramatic consequences.[5][6] The effects could range from complete cessation of existing fundamental forces, elementary particles and structures comprising them, to subtle change in some cosmological parameters, mostly depending on the potential difference between true and false vacuum. Some false vacuum decay scenarios are compatible with the survival of structures like galaxies, stars,[7][8] and even biological life,[9] while others involve the full destruction of baryonic matter[10] or even immediate gravitational collapse of the universe.[11] In this more extreme case, the likelihood of a "bubble" forming is very low (i.e. false vacuum decay may be impossible).[12] "

Also, of course there's a Kurzesagt

[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm going to file this under the category of philosophy similar to "what if we're living in a simulation?" and "parallel universe" theory. As far as I'm aware we have no evidence that there's even such thing as a false vacuum, so this is all just speculation based on some theories.

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, if you need existential dread, a gamma-ray burst could end us in an instant too and they're confirmed to exist and much more likely.

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah but then we get to be big and green, or stretchy, or invisible etcetera

[–] 8000gnat@reddthat.com 8 points 2 days ago

maybe you couldn't survive it but I'm built different

[–] dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 17 points 2 days ago (13 children)

Does this mean the laws of physics could just... Change?

Hoping for the scenario that means FTL travel is possible and nothing else changes lol

[–] Masta_Chief@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

Irl physics patch is crazy

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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

welp this parallel universe goes down the drain too

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 61 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Subatomically dispersed at the speed of light is probably the best way to go. And no one would be left to mourn you.

[–] FMT99@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

♫♪♫ And we will all go together when we go ♫♪♫

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[–] ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago (3 children)

If our particular bubble of the universe has remained unmolested for 13.8 billion years, it is safe to assume it will continue to be for the next 1000 years.

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

that's what the vacuum aliens WANT you to think

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Also it's not like assuming it will collapse in the next decade will make any difference other than having a harder time enjoying the time before then.

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[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 29 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Gamma Ray Burst

Sleep tight

[–] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'd much prefer death by a solar system wide tsunami of highly energetic particles then the slow, agonizing death march we're currently doing.

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[–] Nougat@fedia.io 22 points 2 days ago

I believe that it is possible that false vacuum decay has already begun, but so far away that it might not ever reach us.

[–] kunegis@mander.xyz 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Obligatory mention of the novel [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schild%27s_Ladder](Schild's Ladder) by Greg Egan.

Such a scenario would be interesting indeed.

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[–] ladicius@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)
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