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Elon Musk sparked controversy after criticizing U.K. officials on social media, accusing Safeguarding Minister Jess Phillips of being a "rape genocide apologist" and calling for Prime Minister Keir Starmer's removal over child grooming gang prosecutions.

Musk also suggested "liberating" Britain in a poll.

Starmer defended his record as former director of public prosecutions, condemning Musk for spreading misinformation and fueling far-right threats.

U.K. Health Minister Wes Streeting labeled Musk’s comments a "disgraceful smear."

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[–] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 59 points 2 days ago (4 children)

He sounds like a terrorist

[–] Podunk@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago

He sounds like hes trying to demo what he wants to happen in other places. Normalise the conversation, break the standards. If its part of the dialogue now, it isnt that far fetched if it happens in the future. "We can do it too" "they did it first"

Its not subtle. Its a game plan. Its disgusting, but that is exactly whats happening. Same as when he said that the king of england should dissolve parliament. That wont happen, but saying it out loud unfortunately gives it merit. If its part of the conversation, its going to have opinions. Opinions that used to be only said in shadows, can now be said in public. And then they can be pointed to as justification.

[–] wurzelgummidge@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

He sounds like a twat who knows full well that whatever bullshit he spouts the toady, rage farming, media will be all over it like flies on shit.

[–] loutr@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Oh he knows, he's been doing it for a long time. Only this time he's bought the US government, and spends most of his time with the president-elect, so these tweets have consequences in the real world too. He's also perfectly aware of this, as is his buddy Putin.

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[–] MaxPow3r11@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

That's because he is.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

He's a troll. Just a troll with hundreds of billions of dollars who's somehow still a troll.

I wish everyone would stop feeding him.

[–] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 97 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Let’s liberate the people of America from the oligarchy first.

[–] poo@lemmy.world 49 points 2 days ago

One Luigi at a time 🙏

[–] Atin@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Luigi needs to be set free

[–] FiveTimbers@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

I mean, there is more than 1 Mario brother. Nothing is stopping someone picking up the second controller and joining the game.

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 70 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Ok, so the anti-war Trump administration has now threatened to invade Mexico, suggested annexing Canada, purchasing (or possibly invading) Greenland, and now 'liberating' the UK... all before even actually starting its term.

I am so very glad that reality is basically now a 16 year old 'libertarian' playing the US in some kind of Millenium Dawn derived mod.

[–] Bogusmcfakester@lemmy.world 41 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Don't forget taking the Panama canal back

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 23 points 2 days ago (5 children)

At this rate Trump will probably be talking about invading and conquering Puerto Rico, not realizing / forgetting it is already US territory.

[–] Maultasche@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

And afterwards Hawaii

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Didn't he already conquer Puerto Rico with paper products?

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Yeah, but they wouldn't let him nuke the hurricane, so he's already forgotten about it

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[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah is his game to scare countries with his rhetoric and then give them some deal that seemed crazy before but now seems more reasonable? Basically use the power of the USA as a bargaining tool.

Or does he now think he is Putin/Hitler?

Either way I certainly hope Congress and the military will not participate.

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

When it comes to foreign relations, yes he absolutely says completely insane shit with and then this sets the bar for where negotiations start, and then get talked down to something less insane.

But also sometimes he just does completely insane shit, with no negotiations or after getting fed up with them very quickly.

Does he think he's Putin/Hitler?

Yes.

He is a fascist, a racist, nativist demagogue, has a massive cult of personality, lies so often, so brazenly and with such confidence that it is basically incomprehensible and unprecedented when compared to the history of American politics.

He is a convicted felon, he attempted a coup, failed, got away with it because he won this most recent election, and because the Supreme Court, which he largely appointed, granted the office of President functional criminal immunity to anything they do while in office.

He will begin his new administration by getting his overt sycophants installed in as many positions in all government agencies as possible, whilst purging anyone who will not sign an oath of loyalty to him, personally, or simply destroying those agencies he doesn't like.

Many, many times he has threatened to jail his political opponents, his public critics, to revoke broadcasting rights for news organizations that are critical of him.

He has endorsed domestic terrorist groups, he has incinted violence against marginalized communities, he has enriched his personal wealth and the wealth of his family members directly via functions of the state...

Yeah. He's a corrupt, brutish fascist.

...

Basically America is currently going through the rough equivalent of the Enabling Act stage of the fall of the Weimar Republic.

The Congress and Senate will absolutely go along with almost everything he proposes, his party revolves around him, and it has majority control over both.

Will the Military participate?

IMO, basically yes. Trump will just keep firing and purging people until they follow his orders.

We can pretty much only hope that he is not actually serious about these proposals.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No. No. Ok. I have a brilliant plan. Forget conquering Britain militarily. We will simply revoke The Declaration of Independence. The Act passed through Congress doing this will be called The Declaration of Dependence.

We're now all just in the UK, and we Demand proportional representation in Parliament.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 80 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I think Musk should liberate the whole world. Starting with liberating it of himself.

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 38 points 2 days ago (4 children)

It's crazy that the two biggest shit heads in the world somehow ended up working together.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago

I admit I suspected something like this already when Musk was one of the last to leave the Trump’s chief business advisory council, during Trump's first presidency.

I suspected many of the things about Musk that are now out in the open. Musk is a malignant narcissist like Trump.

[–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Is it really that crazy? 2 sexual predators of the utmost privilege with an incessant need for power at all costs ganging up in order to screw over the rest of us for power and profit?

[–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This town’s only big enough for one of them. Fascists with giant egos can’t stick together in the long run.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Here age is a big factor. If Musk is planning to try and seize real political power, he doesn't have to ever challenge Trump. Implicit in their Devil's bargain is the understanding that, in almost any universe, Musk is going to outlive Trump by a very long time. Elon need never challenge Trump directly, as he can simply let the reaper do that work for him. If Elon is MAGA's heir apparent, then he can take over the movement after Trump is term limited, incapacitated, or dies.

And don't rule out the idea of Musk vying to serve as president himself. As he was not born in the US, he cannot be elected president. But in theory he could become Acting President, which in terms of powers is indistinguishable from being President. He would run two lackeys for President and Vice President. Musk would be appointed Speaker of the House. Then, once elected and sworn in, the two lackeys would immediately resign. This would immediately make Musk Acting President. The two lackeys would run their whole campaign openly announcing this as their intended action; they're not deceiving anyone.

And, as weird as it sounds, according to a strict literalist interpretation of the Constitution, the requirements of being President only apply to being elected President, not appointed by succession as the Acting President. In theory, anyone can be Acting President. If Trump goes for a third term, it would be through this mechanism. And that same loophole would allow Elon to hold the powers of the presidency. MAGA is all about finding weird legal loopholes to seize power at any cost. With a compliant Supreme Court in your pocket? Certainly achievable. The very bargain could be something like "Trump remains president until he dies, after which Elon takes the reins."

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[–] warm@kbin.earth 11 points 2 days ago

We need to restart the titan sub program, I feel like it has great potential. I mean, who doesn't want to visit the Titanic?

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 day ago

Any bets on how long until he tops this with a new, even more outrageous comment? It's going to be right around as long as it takes for the media cycle to move on. Maybe he wants to nuke London now.

[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 34 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Maybe South Africa can liberate us from this piece of human shit.

[–] johsny@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Why are people dragging us into this all the time? He fucked off from here, we are very happy about it and he is your problem now.

[–] Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago

Actually he's everyone's fucking problem now.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Fair enough, what about antarctica, can they take a bullet for the team?

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[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 37 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Fascists are getting more and more dangerous.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 15 points 2 days ago

Where have we seen this before...

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 25 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Hey America, NOBODY WANTS TO BE LIKE YOU

WE DO NOT WANT YOU TO “LIBERATE” US

WE DO NOT WANT YOU TO MASS EXODUS AND MOVE HERE

LEAVE THE REST OF THE WORLD THE FUCK ALONE

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Many Americans don't to be like us either, but we seem to be losing.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well you’ve allowed your country to liken leftism to weakness, and expecting the rest of the world to deal with it. This one is on American leftists just as much as it is on your insane right wing group.

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well I was born well after McCarthyism destroyed all semblance of good-faith discussion of leftist politics, and the current world order is not just America's fault. Rupert Murdoch has been one of the most influential figures in that regard, his propaganda apparatus has pushed the entire Anglosphere right.

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[–] FiveTimbers@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Don't blame us! We don't want this dingbat either. He's not even from here!

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 1 points 1 day ago

Musk is absolutely not the only person I’m talking about here.

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[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You know, Musk is going to piss off the wrong powerful person at some point. Putin may be the window thrower, but he's not the only state actor willing to get blood on his hands.

[–] alquicksilver@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I sometimes wonder how it must feel to go through your daily life knowing that there's a large percentage of the entire planet's population that either actively wants you dead or, if not, would celebrate (or at least not care) if you died.

It can't be a good feeling. I appreciate that. I hope it feels absolutely terrible.

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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Didn’t this man just become president today? What an embarrassment.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Not inauguration on the 20th. Congress certified the electoral votes today, that's all.

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