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[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 13 points 4 days ago (2 children)

All you have to do is come up with a new name for it. It's not like any of them have a clue about what socialism actually entails.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 13 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Historically, such a strategy doesn't actually work. Sooner or later, you get accused of being a godless commie or a tankie anyways. You can either stand firm in your beliefs and attempt to sweep away the dirt of the Red Scare to accurately contextualize Socialism and AES states, or fail to support them at all, leading to issues like Trotskyism (poor understanding of theory and a lack of support for AES) or PatSocs (Nationalist Socialists in the Imperialist countries).

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[–] BrutalPoseidon@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

It worked when people rebranded "falsehoods" to "alternative facts" so why not try it?

[–] iii@mander.xyz 13 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Ignore what politicians say, look at what they do.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago

Both is good. Sometimes politicians are quite honest in an explanatory way for their actions, both need to be taken into account. They don't have to be honest, but their stance is usually projected clearly.

[–] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Although when someone tells you how terrible they are, listen.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The phrase is 'When someone shows you who they are believe them' and has nothing to do with their words because people say all kinds of shit.

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

But the talking head on Fox told me what to think about socialism, using no facts or common sense.

What am I supposed to do? NOT believe them?

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (7 children)

If we can simply help Americans understand small-s socialism from small-c communism, we'd be in much better shape.

Because yes, my healthcare is already paid in advance by me and everyone else from our taxes; and my buddy's emergency Sunday morning quintuple stent install after the widowmaker heart attack and two ambulances and a bed in one hospital before transfer (a third bus) to the regional trauma/cardiac center for the operation and 2 weeks of aftercare was free to him that day -- and his only concern was not dying. And that's not just normal but that's the general expectation. No monthly subscription, no premium cost, no user fee, just paid-parking and vendor-machine food for visitors not coming in via the train.

Our upcoming election will gut that, though. Being bankrupt, losing retirement savings and mortgaged to the hilt at 61 is the American dream mr Polievre has for all Canadian plebes.

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[–] JustADragon@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 days ago

the fear for good, is the fear for change or admitting they where wrong. it is pride, as well as lazyness, combined with stupidity and weakness. because weakness is not how strong one seems(or lack there of) but weakness, is how little a person would be their real self, as well as how much they assume that in order to be strong they need to supress others so they are in a worse state than them. supressing people is a sign of the weak, because they are blinded and can only destroy.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

That's right, they aren't going to overcome their irrational fears. They'll have to be dragged kicking and screaming into the future until it becomes normal and they realize the sky didn't fall. I actually had hope that we were on the verge of a strong progressive wave, but then millions of people decided not to show up because Harris wasn't perfect enough for them. So basically fuck y'all, and good luck with the whole People's Front of Judea vs the Judean People's Front deal. The thing about MAGA is they fucking show up, and they're gonna keep showing the fuck up. Idiots need to figure out that you don't make change happen by turning away when your ideal options don't appear on a menu so you can click on one and go back to scrolling. /end rant

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 4 days ago (8 children)

I think what you're missing is that for most Socialists, electoralism has already been proven as a losing game to begin with, and is far below the minimum requirements to enact change. Real power comes from organizing, which is why Leftists always push for it (and when it happens, they get results).

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