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[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 50 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

It's never a question of how evil they're capable of being, but how competent.

Plenty of conspiracy theories don't work because they'd require hundreds of thousands, maybe millions, of people to completely shut up.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

Yeah. MK Ultra tracked, faking the moon landing didn't.

[–] JovialMicrobial@lemm.ee 32 points 6 days ago (5 children)

I feel like Conspiracy theories are at least partially the result of a lack of regulation and oversight for governing bodies and corporate entities.

For example... the atomic energy commission approved experimenting on disabled children by feeding radioactive oats to them.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/spoonful-sugar-helps-radioactive-oatmeal-go-down-180962424/

It's one of the reasons we have laws like informed consent now.

Everytime we run into something new, like radiation, some company or government branch does some seriously unethical shit with it and new laws and regulations are written.

So it's like we're all just waiting to find out what new fucked up thing has happened, and how many corporations are gonna fight any proposed regulations regarding it.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 6 points 6 days ago

And that's why i say that US law is one of the most reactive.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 4 points 6 days ago

It's why we should regulate them into the ground, and give them 0 trust. Get rid of lobbying, screw profit, the economic damage from all the scams, suffering, and death in the long-term is more than enough to make any gain in profit meaningless.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago

Its already happening again with meat, dairy, poultry, fish, and alcohol.

Lesser known ones like bath soaps and shampoos, detergents, lotions, gas ovens and heaters are also experiencing this.

how else are we supposed to get data on how radiation effects children? Fukushima? Hiroshima? No, neither of those was controlled and both of thosehad goals like "reducing exposure" and "saving lives" by the local government.

[–] desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 6 days ago

how else are we supposed to get data on how radiation effects children? Fukushima? Hiroshima? No, neither of those was controlled and both of thosehad goals like "reducing exposure" and "saving lives" by the local government.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Issue being, a large number of conspiracy theories are just utter bonkers (moon nazis theory, etc.), would be really ineffective in practice (chemtrails, etc.), or tries to blame capitalism's problem on a small number of people within the system (International Jewry, etc.). In fact I kind of have a theory that the more "skizo" stuff was put out to make the real stuff look impallatable for people believing the institutions are serving them.

I know at least some opportunistic far-right people that use conspiracy theories to make their ideology look better, met at least one Holocaust denier that just wanted to whitewash the third reich for newbies until they prove they're ready for the truth through proof of loyalty, and one denies the CIA's involvement in toppling the Salvador Allende governance to make Pinochet look even more badass.

[–] FellowEnt@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Alex Jones amd David Icke are CIA

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If they didn't exist. The CIA would create one. They need lunatics like that to leak documents to if they want the information within to be discreditted.

Pretty sure CIA remote viewing is just trying to explain knowledge gained from bugging devices.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The bottom fox should look the same as the top fox. After they've believed it for decades, their ego is on the line. They will argue that the evidence is bad, or it was always obvious, or that it's overblown.

[–] fnrir@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

bottom fox

Poor choice of words.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 days ago

Phrasing, Lana!

[–] greenskye@lemm.ee 140 points 1 week ago (30 children)

It's never that I think they aren't evil enough, I just don't trust conspiracies that require too much competency. I think most of them are too dumb and uncoordinated to pull off most of the conspiracies I hear about.

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