Why are women's nipples considered unacceptable anyway? It seems really sexist in my opinion to say that male nipples are acceptable but female ones aren't
this post was submitted on 21 Sep 2023
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It's just because of sexualixation and prude people pressuring the fuck out of those platforms. Although a bit unnecessary imho I don't mind seeing a tiddy on insta, they'll have to add a nsfw tag tho. Insta is prob going to decline into even more onlyfans advertisements
So you want NSFW tags for all nipples?
Yes
Or no NSFW tags for any nipples, but it'll be a while before that becomes practical.
You answered your own question there - sexism and patriarchy, which need women as objects and property, not individuals worthy of individual freedoms.
It wasn't actually the nipple, it was the breast.
But as it's a gradual transition and cleavage, side-boob, underboob, straps and pasties have become normalized, the nipple is the only part left to define as the subject of the "issue", as it's the most distinguishable, visually separate and definable part.
The conservative prudes would prefer a more comprehensive ban, but struggle immensely in legally defining the line of "okay/not okay" in a court of law. They find it much easier to enforce certain clothes as legally obligatory for women, but there's very little support for that kind of oppression in most parts of the world.
In a decent number of countries, they are pretty relaxed. You go there, you see nipple (or dick) for 5 seconds, it's notable, then it fades into the background. People are just anal-retentive about it because of religion and family culture.
And if you think about it, family culture comes from religion
Some people enjoy being anal-retention to dicks, I am unsure about the logistics of doing that with a nipple
Because muricans.
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and when someone transitions... it's ... the /same/ nipple, but it used to be illegal and unseemly - but now is perfectly legal to show everywhere ,,, strange.....
I've seen a surgery documentary on TV about transitioning. They showed the surgeon doing the breast surgery. It was all uncensored, nipples and all, until the very second the doc put the silicone bag under the skin. Then they pixelated the nipple. The same nipple they were showing all along.
Makes you wonder at what size of breasts does it become NSFW and should men with boobs be censored? 🤔
I once saw a Japanese arse eating video like that, no pixelation until the tongue touched the rim, then pixelated as if we didn't know what was happening.
Came here to tell the same story. They used to play some crazy shit on TLC before the reality show takeover.
idea: cover post-transition nipple with pre-transition nipple
Or visa versa.
My nipples certainly aren't the same, they're far larger and the shape has changed, it's pretty insane actually. Our bodies are way more plastic than we think.
No kidding, mine are legitimately 3x larger? I spent my whole life already insecure about how large they were 😅
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They're also so much more sensitive....
Mine stayed the same lol, I was scammed
Literally same 😔
Assuming ftm
For the other way round it would be vice versa, which is even more funny IMO - all of a sudden showing your previously legal nipples in public is now illegal
You can't tell me what to do!
uses them for eyeballs instead
Not only are female breasts legal where I live IRL, many Lemmy communities consider them SFW under non-sexual conditions. Godspeed everybody, free the nipple!
Thanks for the article OP, but it's got a clickbatey headline, it doesn't actually answer what took so long (or investigate why they made the change in the first place.)
I think it was a rhetorical question.
I posted it because they point out the problems with this unequal body censorship and show that things are hopefully changing.
With the shift to Lemmy, instances and communities could stand with the 'free the nipple' movement. Let's be the change.
How can we be sure .... what if we all use it and later discover we have been banned since this nipple comes from a wonderful wemen uhh ...
That would just mean we weren't gay
This is very helpful, what a kind gesture
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