Any place there is a way to sign up for a service, there should be a way to cancel the service. Make a pop-up that interrupts you every time you open an app asking you to sign up? You need to keep that pop up and ask if you want to cancel every time.
this post was submitted on 23 Dec 2024
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I cancelled my Amazon Prime trial the other day, and in order to dissuade me the site switched to French...
Maybe just a bug (I tried again and it was in English) but the hoops sites make you jump through to cancel a subscription is ridiculous. Constantly asking you if you're sure, offering discounts, swapping the position and colour of the buttons... The Humble Choice one is particularly bad, and the final screen tells you you're cancelled and the prominent button signs you right the fuck back up again.
If you can sign up in one click, you should be able to cancel in one click.
You should be able to cancel ALL of this shit from your credit card provider/bank apps. One click, gone, bye-bye.
That was probably just a fluke but Amazon does freak out after you cancel. It asks you to renew with a popup, a prominent shipping option, and embedded windows when you buy things without Prime.
You can cancel Billing Agreements in PayPal. It's quite convenient
Will it lead to the exodus towards Matrix/Element? If I have to pay for messaging, I'd rather cut the middleman.
Not yet. It's just not ready yet and people are picky about what chat features they now need.
I wish tho.
What keeps your posse on discord?
I know apps don't like having subscriptions through Apple/Google where they take 15-30%, but it does make it easier to cancel sometimes
It also makes it easy to find all your subscriptions in one place. When every provider tries to get you to subscribe, hunting them all down becomes a pain.
I know what you mean but saying this on a decentralised federated social network which encourages separate instances is very ironic
Good! Holy fucking shit is insane at the amount of predatory crap in software these days!
It's literally become a fucking science on how to manipulate people by wearing them the fuck down with pop-ups, sign-ups, notifications, and "related" content. Anything besides giving the user the opportunity to do what they fucking want to do in the first place.
Honestly, Lemmy is a breath of fresh air. It's also insane how straightforward and easy it is to use, especially considering the reputation the fediverse has for being "complicated."
Open source software seems to be the only way to be free of dark patterns. Why use products that are actively against you?
The Reputation comes from people who have never tried it and are looking for an excuse why they don't use it.
It's Not more complicated than E-Mail
This is only a problem if you subscribe to nitro in the first place. Rookie mistake!
You don't understand I NEED to spam my blushies emote everywhere. 
I enjoy the higher streaming quality and server boosts. Discord makes it very easy for my ttrpg groups to gather weekly not to mention the many other communities it facilitates. It's even partly responsible for me and my partner having a successful long distance relationship. The service is worth paying for, imho.
You can fake a Nitro subscription for free higher quality streaming. Look up ~~Vendord~~, it hardens Discord for better security, adds themes, and plugins. One such plugin is fake Nitro.
Edit: Vencord. Got autocorrected.
Also adding I have only used fake Nitro for streaming quality. So I have no idea if it works for emojis or whatever other Nitro perks there are.
Wait, so for this to work access to the Nitro features it enables must be managed client-side and the client is fully trusted with no validation? That seems... unwise on the part of Discord.
That seems… unwise on the part of Discord.
New here? The company and people behind Discord suck shit and like all tech startups things like security are an afterthought for years on end.
Adblockers had existed for 15 years or more by the time YouTube finally started cracking down on them. I think it would probably take similarly as long before enough people were actually exploiting that loophole before Discord did anything about it.
No, the commenter ommited a lot of information, it's not full Nitro, it's just the features that can be enabled/worked around client-side, see my comment under the parent one.
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To clarify about the fake nitro plugin of Vencord/Vesktop:
It's not Nitro, it just enables some features you get with nitro, mainly better streaming quality and being able to "send" emojis from any server (this is all it does, cant use any emoji reacts nor send bigger files or server boost).
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About the emojis, the custom/other server emojis are sent as image links which discord will render but it is not a native discord emoji and will format differently when used inline.
It also does nothing for custom emoji reacts.
About streaming, Discord uses webrtc, that usually means P2P streaming which in turn means that the streaming client can send whatever they want (as long as the receiving clients understand it) and discord servers can't say no. It's not server authoritative communication, discord without nitro just hides the UI options, vencord gives them back.
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how is it too difficult to cancel? you literally just go to manage subscription and click cancel and it ends at the end of the current term....
Is it the same in every country though?
The process described and shown by the screenshots does seem a bit much for a cancellation. Suing feels disproportionate when I first hear it, but are there many other recourses to force it to become more user friendly?
Based on what I'm reading in the post (since I don't use Discord), it's still obstructing the cancelation flow and making the user go through more steps, which is illegal in California.
All subscriptions should automatically cancel if you stop paying.
That's a bit circular though because they just keep billing your credit card.
In Europe, we have debit cards and some banks allow you to create them on the go. I've stopped bothering canceling stuff, I just create a new card for each recurrent payment and I cancel it when I don't want to use the service any longer.
What Service do you use? I'd like to do the same, because it's not always clear by the charge on my statement who I'm paying. I would imaging having named CCs, like email aliases, would help me keep an eye on things.
I use the Revolut free tier. And I only wire on my revolut account the amounts I want to be paying (my usual bank has free instant wire tranfers) so I don't have any bad surprise.
They also offer single-use/disposable virtual cards, which I've used on websites that I didn't trust fully (Steam keys grey market), these are automatically cancelled after one use.
I don't want to sound like I'm advertising this brand though: they've been a pain during the registration process (I've had to take selfies and videos of myself), they seem to be a shitty employer and to have bad customer support service, see the wikipedia page for more details.
i user privacy.com. it hits my account with unique names per card. so easy to line up.
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offtopic but related: android privacy settings are scattered across many hidden menus.
and a lot of the permissions you can only disable one by one, 3-4 taps for each of the dozens of apps, with needing 2 taps even just to see if the permission is granted for the app
and sadly, calyx and such forks don't fix it either
These guys likely haven't tried canceling a gym membership lmao
i got a trial then cancelled it once, sure, subscribing was easier than unsubscribing but it wasnt nearly as bas as a ton of other companies, namely amazon.
Maybe it's because I live in California and we have rules about this shit to a degree but I remember it being as simple as logging in and saying "end this shit bitch"
If that changed/isn't the case elsewhere then yeah fuck em burn it
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