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The report outlined that the fallout is due to differences over the creative direction of the franchise, with Amazon reportedly in favour of “Marvel-style” ideas to expand the franchise, such as spinoff shows and films.

No, for fucks sake. No!

Broccoli is reported to have baulked at the pitch, telling friends that Amazon are “fucking idiots” who are taking the franchise “hostage”. She has reportedly expressed her disinterest in continuing to work with Amazon for any Bond films. NME has reached out to Amazon MGM Studios for comment.

"Fucking idiots" indeed. And too predictable, to be honest.

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[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Bond should go into the vault and should only be taken out after a decade or two intermission. The Daniel Craig era is a nice capstone to pause the franchise on. IMHO while Casino Royale was a nice reimagining of Bond the last three movies have become too derivative. Let the franchise rest and only revive it when it’s for something fresh and worthwhile. Don’t just make Bond movies for the sake of continuing the franchise.

[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

I think also older audiences were more forgiving of the fuzzy, sometimes contradictory continuity between the older films. Somehow Pierce Brosnan and Sean Connery were the same guy and everyone just kind of rolled with that.

The future of Bond should tighten up continuity from here on out, because for better or worse I don't think modern audiences are as able to just fuzz away discrepancies.

My idea would be to pull from the "James Bond is a codename" fan theory- which currently doesn't work, but to say Daniel Craig is the original James Bond and all the Bonds after him take up the name as a code name. This can open up some possibilities and just make it easier to keep things straight. Old Bonds don't necessarily even have to die, they can retire or be moved out of the roll. You can bring them back as villains, or make one into the new Q or something.

[–] Amanduh@lemm.ee 6 points 21 hours ago

Yeah but money

[–] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm actually not that opposed to a Bond TV show, shorter Bond adventures with more of the older style bonds campy nature and gadgets sounds like a fun time.

Or maybe use the Young Bond book series as a basis, they were pretty fun reads.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Young bond is River Cartwright.

However. I would like to follow some of the other 00's adventures.

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Barbara Broccoli? Is this all a joke timeline?

What does Cara Cauliflower have to say?

[–] niktemadur@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Mind blowing bit of trivia - her ancestors did in fact "invent" broccoli, they made the hybrid and a fortune in the process.

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Angelina Asparagus isn't going to be pleased with this news at all!

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[–] jonne@infosec.pub 3 points 1 day ago

Maybe all the joke names in the franchise were actually real names after all.

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[–] cobysev@lemmy.world 71 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (14 children)

The only type of Bond show I'd be in favor of is a TV series that faithfully recreates the Bond novels in their respective era (1950s-'60s). I would love to see the books remade as a period drama series. Hour-long episodes for each book, maybe multiple episodes if the story was really detailed.

That would be an amazing series, and a unique take, as film Bond is nothing like book Bond. Except for the Daniel Craig era. That's about as close to book Bond as we've ever had. That, and Timothy Dalton's License to Kill film. Book Bond was a very dark and gritty character.

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[–] AshMan85@lemmy.world 103 points 2 days ago (25 children)

Good, I hope she doesn't let then ruin it

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[–] ryan213@lemmy.ca 71 points 2 days ago (12 children)

Amazon Bond or no new Bond at all?

I'm good with how the franchise ended in the last movie.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 19 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I stopped after the first Daniel Craig.

Nothing against him, he's a great actor. Just didn't like the direction of the franchise.

The 70's Roger Moore stuff was campy (which wasn't the best, but you knew that going in) but at least that had it's antecedent with Roger Moore playing The Saint in the 1960's.

[–] ryan213@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 days ago

It's been around for so long that it affects different generations. I prefer the Daniel Craig ones over the others just because that's what was entertaining to me at the time even though I've watched some of the older ones.

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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 33 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I bet they're not telling us the real reason. Bezo's mid-life crisis stepped in and he wanted to play Bond.

[–] hesusingthespiritbomb@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Honestly doubt it. Bezos' sex scandal involved cheating on his wife with a single age appropriate woman, whom he is currently in an exclusive relationship with.

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[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 47 points 2 days ago (3 children)

That name sounds made up.

More power to her though, fuck Amazon.

[–] DemBoSain@midwest.social 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

All of the Bond films were produced by someone named Brocolli.

[–] cobysev@lemmy.world 37 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Albert R. Broccoli was the original co-producer of the Bond franchise (along with Harry Saltzman). Barbara Broccoli is his daughter, who helped him with production through the '80s and took over the franchise starting with GoldenEye in '95.

She's responsible for the more modern era of Bond that started with Pierce Brosnan, and also the rebooted era with Daniel Craig. She specifically rebooted the franchise because of Austin Powers, which satirized the Bond films and basically turned their tropes into a joke. She had to reinvent Bond so people would stop comparing her films to Austin Powers.

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[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 42 points 2 days ago (8 children)

God I’m so tired of Marvel.

I know people like it, and that’s okay, but every action movie is now Guardians of the Galaxy. The earlier marvel movies are fun too, but by Ironman 2/3 there was so much product placement and it all felt very stale and sterile.

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I defended the Marvel offerings post Endgame longer than I should have, there’s some good stuff in there like No Way Home and Shang-Chi but it’s reeked of producers trying to rush the build it took to make the final two Avengers films so anticipated and fun. Even if you hate all of those films and think they are bland you have to admit there was something exciting about the long form storytelling they were doing and the experience of seeing those in the theater was a cool shared experience with so many people around the world. I hope they can recapture that lightening with the Russos coming back but somehow I doubt it

Long way to say, I love the MCU and still agree that’s the last thing Bond, LoTR, Star Trek, fuck name an IP and it shouldn’t be trying to Marvel itself. Let Marvel be Marvel

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[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Can't stand those films. I like the Raimi Spider-man films and the first Iron Man. That's it. All the other Marvel films are repetitive and boring. I stopped watching them around Iron Man 2/3 as well.

Same goes for Star Wars. Rogue One was good. Stopped caring about the franchise after episode VIII (which I actually enjoyed). There are too many shows and spinoffs now and I got burnt out. Never thought I'd see the day when I'd stop being a Star Wars fan but I literally can not stand any of the shows. They're all boring.

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[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Bond hasn't been good since they couldn't use the Soviets anymore as an enemy. Modern producers aren't willing to sacrifice Chinese money to make a real enemy.

[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 1 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

they couldn't use the Societs anymore as an enemy.

glares at you in Ukrainian

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[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (3 children)
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[–] CallateCoyote@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Welp… rest well for now, 007. To say it has been a great run is an understatement. Amazon will likely get bored of this toy eventually and perhaps it will end up in competent hands again and we can simply laugh at whatever trash is produced.

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[–] dditty@lemm.ee 16 points 2 days ago

Daniel Craig's Casino Royale was so good because it did something new; it flipped the series on its head and that was a refreshing change of pace. Realistically gritty action thrillers have dominated the genre ever since. Diluting that with Marvel-esque writing or generic spin-offs would be such a letdown.

I'm not sure what I want next from the Bond franchise, but a Marvel influence is definitely not it.

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