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[–] GuitarSon2024@lemmy.world 8 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

This is the whole reason that I discovered and came to Lemmy. Reddit is literally 90% bots, from the posts, to the filtering, to the censoring, to outright banning. It's a mess.

[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 hour ago

Or getting this shit after you comment somewhere:

"Excuse me but could you please send a direct message to our admins to verify your account before placing a comment? Everyone has to do it."

I replied "go fuck yourself" and they banned me instantly and I never even submitted anything lmao.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago

Tbh, I see how this can be really good for people. We can never again believe that what apples are saying online is really representative of the general population. It never has been, but now we have a really solid reason to dispel the belief that doesn't require much explanation.

That said, we'll need to combat this with more right knit communities where people can better identify themselves as human. Captcha doesn't do that, but the Goth girls on VF so long ago had it figured out. We gotta do proper "salutes".

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 8 points 10 hours ago

But I mean, AI is the asshole, so maybe that's why they went to the front page?

[–] mogoh@lemmy.ml 44 points 16 hours ago (4 children)
[–] zeca@lemmy.eco.br 22 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

there isnt so much incentive. No advertisement. Upvote counters behave weirdly in the fediverse (from what i can see).

[–] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 1 points 36 minutes ago

No advertisement

You don't think that commercial products can't get good (or bad) coverage in a place like this? In any discussion of hardware, software (including, for example, video games), cars, books, movies, television, etc., there's plenty of profit motive behind getting people interested in things.

There are already popular and unpopular things here. Some of those things are pretty far removed from a direct profit motive (Linux, Star Trek memes, beans). But some are directly related to commercial products being sold now (current video games and the hardware to run them, specific types of devices from routers to CPUs to televisions to bicycles or even cars and trucks, movies, books, etc.).

Not to mention the political motivations to influence on politics, economics, foreign affairs, etc. There's lots of money behind trying to convince people of things.

As soon as a thread pops up in a search engine it's fair game for the bots to find it, and for that platform to be targeted by humans who unleash bots onto that platform. Lemmy/Mastodon aren't too obscure to notice.

[–] mtchristo@lemm.ee 16 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

There are no virtual points to earn on Lemmy. So hopefully it will resist the enshitification for while.

[–] weeeeum@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

I still dont see why people care about reddit karma. Its just a number?

[–] Anarki_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 6 hours ago

Account age and karma makes an account look more legit and it's thus more useful for spreading misinformation and/or guerilla marketing.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 8 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Same reason why people play cookie clicker, watch the useless number go up.

Also, some subs are downright hostile to people with low karma.

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I actually got auto-added to some bullshit sub that was "for people with so much karma." I don't remember what the number was, because it was such a useless sub that no one engaged with.

[–] mtchristo@lemm.ee 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Some subreddits require a minimum karma score for posting. And it gets less likely to get shadow banned the more karma you have.

[–] weeeeum@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

Ohhh right. I remember subs had that bullshit. I didnt know about the shadowban thing though.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 19 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

In the age of A/B testing and automated engagement, I have to wonder who is really getting played? The people reading the synthetically generated bullshit or the people who think they're "getting engagement" on a website full of bots and other automated forms of engagement cultivation.

How much of the content creator experience is itself gamed by the website to trick creators into thinking they're more talented, popular, and well-received than a human audience would allow and should therefore keep churning out new shit for consumption?

[–] conicalscientist@lemmy.world 15 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

It's ultimately about ad money. They haven't cared it's humans or bots either. They keep paying out either way. This predates long before the LLM era. It's bizarre.

It's pretty much a case of the POSIWID. The system is meant to be genuine human engagement. What the system does is artificial at every step. Turns out its purpose is to fabricate things for bots to engage with. And this is all propped up by people who for some reason pay to keep the system running.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

This reminds me of the ad supported games that advertise other ad supported games. I think I've even seen an ad supported game run an ad for itself.

I wonder if at some point people will walk away from these platforms and the platform and its owners won't even be able to tell.

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 19 points 18 hours ago

Most people who have worked in customer service would believe every word because they have seen the absurdity of real people.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 120 points 1 day ago (8 children)

(Already said this before, but let me reiterate:)

Typical AITA post:

Title: AITAH for calling out my [Friend/Husband/Wife/Mom/Dad/Son/Daughter/X-In-Law] after [He/She] did [Undeniably something outrageous that anyone with an IQ above 80 should know its unacceptable to do]?

Body of post:

[5-15 paragraph infodumping that no sane person would read]

I told my friend this and they said I’m an asshole. AITAH?

Comments:

Comment 1: NTA, you are abosolutely right, you should [Divorce/Go No-Contact/Disown/Unfriend, the person] IMMEDIATELY. Don’t walk away, RUNNN!!!

Comment 2: NTA, call the police! That’s totally unacceptable!

And sometimes you get someone calling out OP… 3: Wait, didn’t OP also claim to be [Totally different age and gender and race] a few months ago? Heres the post: [Link]


🙄 C’mon, who even think any of this is real…

[–] WilderSeek@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I'm thinking of pulling the plug on Reddit (at least for a while). My tipping point has become how the "drone" story is becoming popular. At first it was intriguing and mysterious (the airport shutdowns and reports of large vehicles at low levels was fascinating), but I'm getting the vibe it's a misinformation campaign to distract the US from how we are about to be changed.

I was actually permabanned in the "News" sub for an innocuous comment. All it was is that I noted the federal authorities are likely correct for saying most of the reports of "UFOs" are likely airplanes and manmade drones, and to play devil's advocate I mentioned there were likely legitimate reports of UAPs, but since the majority were probably mistaken planes the Federal agencies' reactions were technically truthful.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 hours ago

Typical AITA post:

"I want to do what I want with my own life. AITA?"

Everybody Sucks Here

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 10 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Man, sometimes when I finish grabbing something I needed from Reddit, I hit the frontpage (always logged out) just out of morbid curiosity.
Every single time that r/AmIOverreacting sub is there with the most obvious "no, you're not" situation ever.

I never once seen that sub show up before the exodus. AI or not, I refuse to believe any frontpage posts from that sub are anything other than made up bullshit.

[–] smokebuddy@lemmy.today 21 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Needs to feature both a wedding and a pregnancy and you've nailed it

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 9 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

insert plot from an episode of Friends

AITAH?

[–] PineRune@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago

I asked my friend to help move a couch into my apartment but he got it stuck in the stairwell. AITAH?

[–] Hackworth@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

I feel like we're collectively writing the custom instructions for this bot.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 9 points 20 hours ago

If it's well-written enough to be entertaining, it doesn't even matter whether it's real or not. Something like it almost certainly happened to someone at some point.

[–] Stanley_Pain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 23 hours ago (7 children)

Way too many...

I was born before the Internet. The Internet is always lumped into the "entertainment" part of my brain. A lot of people that have grown up knowing only the Internet think the Internet is much more "real". It's a problem.

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[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 12 points 17 hours ago

Shiri’s Scissor was supposed to be a cautionary tale...

[–] Arbiter@lemmy.world 83 points 1 day ago (11 children)

Oh boy, identity mechanics to curb out the last vestiges of privacy.

[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

let me scan your eyeballs. it’s the only way

[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 23 points 22 hours ago

Also doesn’t fix the problem at all, I can still just use AI to post to my main account

[–] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They're pretty much declaring a war on VPNs also

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 14 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Yep. More than half the time I can't access Reddit through Proton VPN.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 1 points 7 hours ago

I can. But i have an account.

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[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I wonder where people in the future will get their information from. What trustworthy sources of information are there? If the internet is overrun with bots, then you can't really trust anything you read there, as it could all be propaganda. What else to do, though, to get your news?

[–] frostysauce@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago

That's the killer app right there: the complete inability for the common person to distinguish between true and false. That's what they're going for.

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[–] Nougat@fedia.io 40 points 1 day ago (4 children)
[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

At least one of you is real.

The other guy is me.

[–] stardom8048@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

There are at least 37 of us. Unless a bot posted this...

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