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Full Caucus Set to Vote After Key Panel Picks Pelosi-Backed Dem Over AOC for Oversight Spot (www.commondreams.org)

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Rep. Ro Khanna said that "many" in the House Democratic caucus, including himself, will back Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in Tuesday's vote.

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 112 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Ngl I think AOC should straight up form a new party with Bernie or something like that, because the DNC is just gonna keep giving us the neoliberal shit sandwich until they’re subsumed by the Republican Party outright (other parties being outlawed, of course).

I know that end-state sounds hyperbolic, but at this point I wouldn’t be shocked if that’s how things eventually play out if this authoritarian slide continues.

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 49 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Except she spent the last election cycle mocking third parties and saying you need to 'build coalitions' by working within the party

If this is what she got for her support of Israel and 'working within the party', then I think she might have been taken for a ride

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Except she spent the last election cycle mocking third parties and saying you need to 'build coalitions' by working within the party

She is right. Divide and conquer is a super effective strategy, the left loves doing the divide part to itself then acts shocked when it gets conquered.

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

When your left-wing coalition depends on kowtowing to capital to survive, it isn't left-wing anymore.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 8 points 1 day ago (4 children)

So make yourself smaller, less relevant, less resources but ideologically pure. Not exactly a winning formula. You go to war with the army you've got, not the army you wish you had.

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[–] DeadWorldWalking@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Like how Bernie "worked with" the Dems by bending the knee to Hillary after the 2016 primary?

Yeah idk why the progressives think they can work with the right wing obstructionists that are the Democratic party.

[–] ramsorge@discuss.online 2 points 1 day ago (15 children)

Guess we should have all voted for that hack Stein. The green painted wing of the GOP

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[–] Xanis@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's not a bad idea. However, better would be a reforming and rebranding of the current DNC's image. It is the right time to begin setting the foundations though, make no mistake.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

However, better would be a reforming and rebranding of the current DNC's image.

And how would anyone go about that when the party leadership is fighting them at every turn?

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The only legal way would be to mimic the corporations that captured the DNC to begin with, basically bribes.

You'd have to create a super PAC that only funds left leaning democratic candidates, and one that would be willing to fund primaries against incumbents within the DNC.

The main problem is that parties only care about funding now, and there aren't exactly a bunch of leftist billionaires.

Citizens vs United basically ensured that any form of social economic reform is off the table for the foreseeable future. The political parties are bought and paid for, and will continue to funnel public spending into privatization until capitalism reaches terminal growth.

[–] Xanis@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We can indirectly fight this through grassroots campaigning from the bottom up. Assuming we aren't completely fucked by 2028 this type of strategy would ensure long term success.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think "grassroots" campaigning is an idea that parties use to dangle as a carrot in front of the eyes of the progressive wings of the party. If you look at any successful "grassroots" campaign in the last ten years you'll usually find someone with deep pockets funding them.

All campaigns take people's time and money to sustain itself, without that funding you're just going to be smothered out. Plus, this isn't a localized problem, it's systemic.

Grassroot campaigns are meant to solve endemic problems, it's not something suitable to change the hierarchical structure of a national political party.

The innate problem with the DNC is that leadership roles are subservient to the people who control the actual funding of the party. People like Nancy Pelosi aren't shot callers because of their "leadership abilities", they are in control because they have long established connections to mega donors.

[–] Xanis@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Apart from a France-esque uprising, focusing on local elections, State Assemblies, and reinforcing the foundations of strong candidates at the levels we can have individual impact at naturally helps on a larger scale. It's really a question of organization, as funding at local levels can often be measured in the hundreds or thousands instead of the millions. People are tired of feeling helpless, let's give them a way to channel that energy.

This is ultimately what I wanted if Biden/Harris won. Four years to prepare. Now it's four years to survive.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Seconded

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 74 points 1 day ago

"Pelosi's penchant for backroom sabotage was easy to cheer when she was pushing fellow octogenarian and likely loser Joe Biden out of the presidential race; it's harder to justify when an eminently qualified rising star—who, whether Pelosi likes it personally or not, is widely known to be a cornerstone of the party's future—pushes for a simple promotion," Sammon added.

God damn...

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Fuck the Democratic Party. We demand Progressive Party

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Now is the perfect time to put together a new party. We have two years to make it viable. Assuming we still have elections.

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago

!newpoliticalparty@lemmy.world is a new community for this purpose. Unfortunate it’s on .world

[–] JTPorkins@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Bring back the moose!

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hopefully the old fuck just has a stroke tomorrow and keels over. That would be a fitting divine punishment for his hubris and desperate clinging to power. Those that refuse to let the next generation take the reins in their time deserve to sudden suffer sudden heart attacks. Peaceful retirement is for those who actually are willing to retire.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Where's a Death Note when the world needs one?

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

If I get my hands on one of those, I'm going to need a microfiche writer...

Also, be prepared for a thousand fold multiplying of deaths due to auto-erotic asphyxiation...

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 16 points 1 day ago

We need so many more Luigi's to fix this country for the hand sitters.
-Me, a hand sitter

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

> I'm here to end insider politics!

> *plays insider politics*

> *gets fucked by insider politics*

Who could have seen this coming?

[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago

Imagine being such a hater that's up your own ass that you hate AOC.

[–] blattrules@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s great when the people running the country on both sides refuse to learn anything from their mistakes.

[–] ramsorge@discuss.online 2 points 1 day ago

There seems to be only one side, with minor views on which group of people they are targeting.

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