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U.S. CEOs and business executives are alarmed as Donald Trump remains firm on imposing high tariffs on U.S. allies, despite warnings from economists about potential economic harm.

According to the Wall Street Journal, Trump’s late-night social media announcements have blindsided both his advisers and business leaders, leaving them scrambling to react.

While Trump consults some advisers, like Marco Rubio and Treasury pick Scott Bessent, his unilateral approach limits their influence.

The uncertainty has left business leaders struggling to find ways to alter his stance on trade policies.

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[–] WhatsHerBucket@lemmy.world 344 points 6 days ago (7 children)

How the actual fuck are people “blindsided” by this?

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 170 points 6 days ago

Maybe the leopards started with the eyes.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 115 points 6 days ago (3 children)

You ever talk to c-level execs? Many of them simply aren't smart. They're just very aggressive and confident which gives the appearance of intelligence.

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 39 points 6 days ago (1 children)

A lot of times attractiveness plays a big role too. In modern corporate america being attractive will get you further than being smart.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 5 days ago

Studies have shown that something as simple as being tall makes people be more likely to be looked towards as leaders.

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[–] can@sh.itjust.works 66 points 6 days ago

CEOs aren't the brightest.

[–] finder585@lemmy.world 40 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Because folks do their 5 minute research by reading conservative mainstream news outlets and safe space enclaves that Tariffs are good.

Talking points to the contrary are not allowed, so they get to find out the hard way.

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[–] Maiq@lemy.lol 172 points 6 days ago (1 children)

He's a Russian asset, what do they think he is going to do anything that's in the US's best interest? He's here to burn it to the ground and line his pockets with what's not ashes.

Honestly at this point I don't know how anyone can't see the obvious.

[–] BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 31 points 6 days ago (3 children)

What can we do besides impotently complain about this on the internet?

[–] Maiq@lemy.lol 25 points 6 days ago (14 children)

With all the anger about the dead CEO lately and rightfully angry people in glee over the violence, I truly think we could accomplish more with a general strike. Crash the fake economy built on fraud. If wall street looses billions a day in their fictional numbers they throw around we would show them real power. This would accomplish more than any dead CEO ever could.

Saw a post where the Trump administration is eyeing pulling FDIC from our banks! They already plan on crashing the economy. Stealing all your money, and making the US in Russia's image.

https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/trump-advisers-reported-plan-ease-banking-oversight-may-not-get-required-support-2024-12-13/

If we beat them to the punch we might still have our bank account money at least while their fictional money evaporates into thin air.

One thing the real rich people won't stand for is their money vanishing. If we hold out long enough the real wealthy will likely turn on him, hell he might fall out a window!

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[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 53 points 5 days ago (4 children)

I hope he ruins all of them. Every last one.

You had four whole years of Trump to realize he never jokes around, he doesn't bluff, and he's never going to pivot, change directions, or admit he made a mistake. He means what he says and there is no nuance or subtext.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 21 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

He means what he says and there is no nuance or subtext.

Well, there is a sort of nuance here.

In that he's also terrible at doing literally anything, and fails constantly at achieving promises.

He also has so many plots and schemes cooking at any given moment with so many other people and organizations that you absolutely cannot trust or predict any outcome. This is the real thing that nobody learned about Trump is that he is completely unpredictable because he can't be honest about the color of the sky if asked.

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[–] buttfarts@lemy.lol 17 points 5 days ago

My only solace is that Trump kills everything he touches and betrays everyone who is loyal to him.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 118 points 6 days ago (2 children)

They thought they’d vote anti-tax first, then pushover trump on the tariffs when they had the time. Looks like they were wrong.

More faces being eaten.

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 55 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

If this was his first go-around I could see some rationale to that idea. But holy shit, has there been a case of collective amnesia among business 'leaders'?!!

They knew exactly what they were getting. Because we've seen all this before. Usually this is the definition of madness. But in this case it should be the definition of stupidity.

This same surprised Pikachu shit is going to happen over and over and over again over the next 4+ years. Even right now, the media keep assuming what he says is what he will do. And I have no idea why. He demonstrated in his first term that at least half of what he promises he either backtracks on he doesn't follow through on. Why they think things will be different this time is beyond me.

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[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 25 points 6 days ago

The one singular upside of Cheeto 2.0 is that I'll get to enjoy some guilty schadenfreude as the face eating leopard starts eating the faces of the party-for-face-eating-leopards.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 5 days ago

"Stupid CEOs are left dumbfounded when a greedy selfish narcissist who only listens to those who pay him the most is a greedy selfist narcissist."

I know CEOs are never the smartest people, but Jesus Christ. Milk spoiling in the summer heat is less obvious.

[–] Absaroka@lemmy.world 56 points 5 days ago (9 children)

Might be a bit of a contrarian take, but at this point I think Trump needs to have a gigantic fuck up to drive people to the streets in anger, South Korea style. One of those 'we need our medicine before we can get better' moments.

For some reason tens of millions of people buy his "'I'm the greatest - only I can save you - they're evil and stupid" rhetoric.

So it's going to take a truly epic fuck up that he can't bullshit his way out of - and that the media can't ignore - for people to finally see that him and his cronies are all gigantic pieces of shit.

[–] limelight79@lemm.ee 49 points 5 days ago (3 children)

He did have a gigantic fuck up. He fucked up the response to covid-19. Badly. And how much did his fuck up make the situation worse in the rest of the world?

74 million people still voted for him in 2020. During and immediately AFTER that fuck up.

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[–] Brown5500@sh.itjust.works 27 points 5 days ago

January 6th has entered the chat...and quietly left unnoticed.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago

His entire first administration was a series of such fuckups. I am not hopeful that consequences (for him) are ever coming.

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 18 points 5 days ago

I don't think that's possible, unfortunately. I'm pretty sure he knows he can get away with anything, and his stupid fans will still gladly follow him. He will put the blame on someone else, every time, and they will believe him, every time.

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[–] yarr@feddit.nl 43 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Wait, what CEO is surprised that Trump won't look at data and make decisions on that? Anyone this foolish should have their stock shorted.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 16 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

"we thought we could control the face eating leopard."

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[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 58 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Looks like Americans are about to go through their version of brexit. Good luck, it's going to be rough.

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[–] Shirasho@lemmings.world 72 points 6 days ago

This guy has tanked all of his previous enterprises due to his poor decision making and lack of knowledge. What in their right minds made them think this would be any different?

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 33 points 5 days ago

Trump’s late-night social media announcements have blindsided both his advisers and business leaders, leaving them scrambling to react.

He said he was going to do this long ago, dipshits. "Seriously, but not literally?"

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 51 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Did you only now notice that he only cares about himself?

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 36 points 6 days ago (2 children)

And he's mind-bogglingly stupid on top of that.

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[–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 67 points 6 days ago

Anyone else feel like the goal IS inflation?? I feel like they're trying to contrstruct a Weimar Republic situation with this to push people further right. I hope I'm wrong, but this feels like they're really trying to come up with an excuse to kill a lot of people.

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 42 points 5 days ago (3 children)

All part of Putin's plan. He probably gave him the advice on tariffs.

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[–] Nougat@fedia.io 67 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Maybe your dumb asses should have been railing against this a long fucking time ago.

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[–] shasta@lemm.ee 30 points 5 days ago

unilateral

authoritarian*

FTFY

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 63 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Didn't he literally campaign on these tariffs?

Where were these titans of industry in October?

Link

Yup. This is not a new thing. If these guys had lined up to say this at a microphone during the campaign it could have had an impact. But no, they thought they could just control him after the fact. After having seen how uncontrollable he was during his first term. This is what happens when you equate wealth with intelligence. You get dumbasses who think they're playing 5d chess.

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[–] john89@lemmy.ca 31 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Just increase taxes on the wealthy...

All tariffs will do is put the additional costs onto the working class.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago

Working as intended.

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[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 63 points 6 days ago

The German corporate elite thought they could control the last guy as well...

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 41 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (5 children)

He has already shown them what he wants them to do.

Just donate $1 million to him and he will help your business

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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 16 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Can someone explain why no one takes Trump at his word?

[–] Anti_Iridium@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago

From what I understand, is that his supporters know he lies, but they believe he is telling the truth about X, which is whatever his supporters think is the most important.

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[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 46 points 6 days ago

You let the fox in the henhouse. Why would he listen? He's not planning to win over hearts and minds

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago

Leopards, faces, etc.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 23 points 5 days ago (2 children)

After the great depression, tariffs were implemented and failed to do anything other than fuck over the American people.

The event that finally ended the Great Depression was the United States' entry into World War II, which significantly boosted the economy through increased demand for war materials and created millions of jobs in defense industries. While President Roosevelt's "New Deal" programs aimed to alleviate the Depression, they did not fully end it. The massive production needs of World War II essentially pulled the US out of the Depression. The government spending on war materials created a significant economic stimulus.

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[–] cultsuperstar@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago

What are they expecting, exactly? Even Musk was saying a day before the election that Trump was going to tank the economy. I'm sure Trump will just say "things are going to get worse before they get better, but believe you me when they get better, you're all going to be filthy rich!" The typical Trump supporter will assume he's talking to them, but he'll only be talking to those who are already filthy rich.

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 38 points 6 days ago (11 children)

Well shit. I hoped it was just bluster, but if he's serious it makes a lot of sense.

The 0.1% gain wealth whenever economies crash. He is obviously going to try to crash the world economy so fat cats can buy assets for pennies on the dollar, including entire developing nations. Then the fed prints a gazillion dollars and bails it all out.

Greedy pigs get fatter, the rest of us get leaner.

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[–] nul42@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 days ago

Have they tried calling the CEO crises hotline?

This is literally the most predictable outcome.

[–] Sasha@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 6 days ago

I'm going to laugh so hard if Trump has an "apparent suicide" and at least one cop says it's not suspicious, if they can do it to whistleblowers who risk their profits, surely this qualifies?

Not saying it's likely, just that I absolutely will laugh, probably for days.

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