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[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 47 points 1 month ago (3 children)

"We want a senior developer at junior pay."

[–] HornedMeatBeast@lemmy.world 45 points 1 month ago

I forget what the exact quote is, but...

Wanted, candidate with:

 The wisdom of a 50 year old.

 The experience of a 40 year old.

 The drive of a 30 year old.

 The pay of a 20 year old.
[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Our rockstar developer quit, because they had to fulfill too many roles and you get to be their replacement

...at junior pay."

[–] JudahBenHur@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

rockstar

developer

[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

1 Year and many poor design decisions later: "Why is our app so slow??"

[–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 month ago

We had a great product, then we axed the great staff. Of course, we sold the company before the product went to shit.

[–] codexarcanum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Be familiar with NoSql: like Mysql, postgreSQL, SequelSqlSQL, and Memdb.

Be fluent in 5 programming languages, 3 spoken languages, and be able to read Linear A, B, and C.

Reminds me of when I was first out of school, and seeing jobs for C#.NET that needed 5 years of experience back when the entire platform was 3 years old.

[–] eerongal@ttrpg.network 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Be familiar with NoSql: like Mysql, postgreSQL, SequelSqlSQL, and Memdb.

well, the definition of "NoSQL" was changed to stand for "Not Only SQL" some while back because of how many nosql DBs started incorporating SQL (and how many SQL RDBMS started adding nosql features)

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago

NoSQL was only ever a marketing term. Things like Mongo are what's been known as KVSes (Key-Value Stores). Mongo basically just rode a hype wave into extremely large amounts of funding but predating it by at least a decade was libmemcached, which lacks the "relational light" functionality that Mongo added but is a more resilient version of the core concept.

Technologies like Redis actually ended up adding significant innovation but they ended up mostly eschewing the NoSQL term anyway.

[–] codexarcanum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago

Hah! Of course it is, I didn't know that but words stopped meaning anything in tech ages ago and reality is finally catching up. Makes sense though, Azure and AWS both are webs of different data stores and interconnections now.

[–] etchinghillside@reddthat.com 19 points 1 month ago (3 children)

You must know double Java.

No, that's in order. You must know those languages in that order, sort of like a russian nesting doll of experience.

[–] 0x0@programming.dev 5 points 1 month ago
[–] Vordimous@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

Amazing, i didn't even notice this.

[–] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] satanmat@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No remote work, location: Bay Area.

[–] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Yearly bonus: $5 coupon for McDonald's

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Valid only in Altoona, PA.

[–] HornedMeatBeast@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm currently looking for work in this area and I have seen very similar postings, 3 years experience and for £25000 to £29000.

It's bloody mental, and they list it as junior roles and then list everything.

[–] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Fuuuuck that

[–] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Most people don't realise this but it says "what we're looking for" not "our minimum requirements". And even when they do say they are minimum requirements, they aren't really.

Whoever gets this job is absolutely not going to have all this. You can still apply.

That said it doesn't seem totally unreasonable. I have used all those languages and have at least medium understanding of them (haven't written any Go or Java for a while).

I've used MySQL and Postgresql, and Mongo mercifully briefly.

I've used some of the AWS stuff. Enough to bullshit about the rest.

I haven't ever really designed a fault tolerant scalable system but I could definitely bullshit about it.

You don't need to get 100%.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago

Bullshit rarely passes technical interviews at places with low turnover.

I've done some cloud stuff on AWS and GCP and thought I knew enough to pass interviews, then they started asking me about stuff I hadn't even heard of anywhere I'd worked.

Started a new job 3 months ago, 80% of our stack/frameworks are technologies I've never heard of before. Tekton, Firestore, Cypress, 42Crunch, Conformance, Cloud Functions (I think that's just GCP Lambda), some front end testing frameworks I don't know (more of a backend guy though I know raw JavaScript/TypeScript, HTML, and CSS really well from back in the day), Hoppscotch instead of Postman for some reason... and other stuff I'm forgetting now.

I thought because I'd written applications that ran in a cloud environment and understood Jenkins, I was all set. Nope. 28 years I've been doing this and I still feel like a newbie outside of the Java web services ecosystem. And it doesn't matter how good I am in that arena because the code is shit almost beyond repair. Half of our tools are flat out being lied to. Our endpoints are written to detect our testing frameworks and just respond with 200 and a blank payload. Our Swagger is useless because everything returns Result so you can't see the DTOs because 42Crunch gives like 600+ errors because of how garbage the API is written...

Man, I drifted there. Point is, you need to know enough to get the job in order to bullshit your way into it.

My secret? I'm in a high turnover position in the Midwest market (not competing with the glut of tech workers in major hubs, nor drawing their kind of pay) and the technical interview was pretty laughable. Now I have to try to prove myself and get hired in as a full employee rather than contractor. Then I'll have some job security and maybe a path forward that isn't just keep taking Sr. Dev, Team Lead contracts.

[–] oVerde@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah but these show up somehow at some point in the tech interviews rounds and if you fumble to strengthen your experiences you will get rejected

[–] Miaou@jlai.lu 2 points 1 month ago

Any random crud app will have you tick almost all those boxes. What's the problem?

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago

They didn't say 'in exactly 2 years', if you have that experience gathered on the course of 20 years, that's still '2+ years of experience' 🌚