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ENT s2e10 "Vanishing Point"

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[–] electric@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

This was actually the first ever Star Trek episode I'd seen and terrified me. Avoided the show(s) for a few years because of it.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 20 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Beaming in general is terrifying. You are destroyed on a molecular level and then reconstructed somewhere else. Is that at the new location actually you, or just a convincing clone? What does it matter for the others around you, as the clone has and is everything you previously were, but you are actually dead.

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

You're cells/tissues have been regrown/replaced throughout your existence. You have already "died" countless times. Fuck it, dude. Let's go bowling.

Edit: totally spaced on the fact that he's addressing a young Stamets in Dazed and Confused!

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

You’re cells/tissues have been regrown/replaced throughout your existence. You have already “died” countless times.

but that over a long period of time, not in a flash like on a transporter pad!

Fuck it, dude. Let’s go bowling.

Okay, have it your way...

[–] Stampela@startrek.website 3 points 2 weeks ago

Niko, my cousin! Wanna go bowling?

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

You are still operating while that happens, so you don't die.

[–] _NetNomad@fedia.io 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

iirc when beaming, you can momuntarily feel yourself in both places at once, which implies that your brain activity is at least contigious even if you're made of new atoms. i guess it comes down to what you consider "you"

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 week ago

But there's also the part where, canonically, the transporter takes some shortcuts and reuses some allegedly common data for your species potentially modifying your DNA. Who knows what else it simplifies for efficiency.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You are photocopied and then die. Society continues to benefit.

[–] electric@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah I'd already been into sci-fi stuff and had been watching other Sy-Fy "horror" movies at the time. This episode really nailed the feeling though and lives rent free in my mind whenever the consequences of teleportation are brought up.

[–] dutchkimble@lemy.lol 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Wonder if they used it medically and for cosmetic surgeries. Nose too long? Cancerous growth? We’ll remove that while you beam

[–] atthecoast@feddit.nl 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Several episodes mention “biofilters” that eliminate viruses during transport. So yes there’s already some modification going on!

[–] kogasa@programming.dev 3 points 1 week ago

This has gotta be responsible for some awful mistreatment of alien gut fauna

[–] xia@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 week ago

IIRC, there were a few fetal transports (rather than c-sections).

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

An odd beginning, but gotta start somewhere. Was well steeped into Trek when ENT came about. The first episode I caught (from regular cable before streaming was the mainstay) was s1e4 "Strange New World". When I saw the crew shuttle down to an M-class planet, just in uniform rather than isolation suits, and with everyone's favorite good boi Porthos I noped the fuck out. Wasn't until sometime after its cancellation that I gave it another go. Love the show, for the most part, now. Still too bad they never had the chance to make a finale.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Still too bad they never had the chance to make a finale.

I mean, we have Demons and Terra Prime :)

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And who could say no to Robocop!

Trip and T'Pol's little one still so heartbreaking.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Peter Weller makes a damn fine Villain (Admiral Marcus, Paxton).

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Peter Weller is a villain irl

[–] electric@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

That image is just cracking me up for some reason.