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Afaik this happened with every single instance of a communist country. Communism seems like a pretty good idea on the surface, but then why does it always become autocratic?

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[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I think because true communism never existed. All the previous attempts were flawed, people got corrupted, misused their power and it's difficult to overcome human nature. It might work in theory (or not). But so far the attempts ~~weren't that many and they~~ were all flawed for different reasons.

[–] iii@mander.xyz 2 points 2 weeks ago

weren't that many

It's a pretty long list (1)

On Authority by Engels, question answered almost 200 years ago

[–] cmhe@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

To simplify, two main reasons. First when done via revolutions it often causes economic and societal shock in which autocrates take the power away from the people. And second, when done peacefull, foreign intervention of secret agencies which again try to put autocrates in powerful positions.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

What tends to emerge from the ashes of war and empire.

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

My bro your lucky you didn't ask this in lemmy.ml,hexbears and lemmygrad.

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Thats like asking why North Korea became a dictatorship when it is a people's democracy.

Power gaps get filled, small states get conquered.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

First, and above all else, there are assholes (US) who will prevent you from having nice things. Democracy is the easiest vector to let CIA/money get a corrupt asshole into power. Democracy tends to be a fiction anyway. Money/CIA/Media control is just part of the reason. Should you let corrupt assholes vote or run for power?

A country that has an army has dictatorial power, whether there is a theater of elections or not. An autocratic chain of command controls it, and if you don't behave, regardless of your constitution, you get smacked by the army.

In the US, there is communism for the corporatist oligarchy. Government they own will protect them from competition and bail them out when they fail. The CIA/media defines the communists as anyone who is not as pro business as the most pro business corporatist oligarch. US is a pure dictatorship in that Israel first corporatist oligarchy is guaranteed to win every seat/election, or 95%+ of the seats anyway. Every NATO country has a CIA allegiant party leader is also guaranteed to produce a CIA allegiant government. CIA vets all appointments to EU government to be pro US dictatorial NATO. IMF has 50%+ of votes all from US colonies.

Celebrating media simplifications of Democracy vs. non-US-compliant is the wrong metric to apply to nations. Industrial policy meant to promote equitable prosperity or defense from Imperialist forces determined to subjugate them are more important to a nation than what US media describes them as. "Everyone" loved Russia when they had Yeltsin as a puppet privatizing everything cheaply to US interests, just as they love Zelensky for the same. Ukraine, since US coup, is an apartheid ethnostate, which cannot qualify for any objective definition of democracy (we praise it for it anyway), and recently has suspended all elections.

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