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[–] win95@lemmy.zip 78 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I've been on bluesky for a while (over a year). My (leftist) bubble was complaining about how boring it was for the longest time. Now I keep seeing people complaining about the influx of the "new" people joining. And here I am complaining about the complainers. Oh, to be a human on the internet.

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[–] discimus@mander.xyz 75 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Seems to be mainly because Bluesky is just a better user experience.

Changes in terms of service regarding AI (artificial intelligence), changes in the block feature and the presence of so many bot-like ‘impression zombie’ accounts are viewed negatively by Japanese users

But, X is still incredibly important in Japan and Bluesky isnt a serious threat to it culturally right now.

X is still a major, major news source for Japanese users, so it really won't slow down anytime soon. Newer platforms like Threads or Bluesky really don't have any meaningful adoption or use for brand marketing in Japan — yet

[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 4 points 3 weeks ago

Anecdotally, a lot moved to Insta or maintain both xitter and insta, but yeah, there's no real inertia to move and, outside of otaku circles, it seems that mastodon and the fediverse are basically unknown.

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 72 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I'm surprised that the article doesn't mention Misskey. It's a Federated platform that connects with Mastodon and the like, and has close to a million users. After Mastodon it's the most active platform in the Fediverse, and owes most of its popularity to Japanese users.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works 26 points 3 weeks ago

Not surprising, they are trying to redirect people on bluesky not on the fediverse

[–] sibachian@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 weeks ago

they are basically running a huge marketing campaign and a few halfwits on the fediverse are promoting a 'competing' platform.

nothing new under the sun.

[–] P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I saw a lot of bizarre shit from there through my federated Mastodon instance…

[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

what do you mean reasons other than us politics? do other kinds of reasons even exist?

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 15 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Here we are on the Fediverse. And Mastodon exists. Why, therefore would we BLuEsKy?

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You can bridge them together and call it a day. Otherwise, presumably because a bunch of the interesting people who left Twitter are there and not on Masto.

I mean, don't ask questions you don't want to hear the answers to, I suppose.

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

A friend convinced me, since they are on BSKY, to get an account. I don't really get the format of Xitter/BSKY/Masto. I tend to hang here mostly, and on Pixelfed but less so. Same disappointment on my part from those who can't leave FB/IG/Reddit because 'that's where all the cool kids are'. So yeah, I may open the app from time to time (month to month), but BSKY is not for me.

Note: We had a guy in town called MudMan, built a labyrinth some years back in a local park.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 6 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Like, was that his legal name? Because man, that's ballsy.

Anyway, I mostly agree with you, I am more at home here than on all the microblog platforms. I do feel Bsky does a better job at being that than Masto. Masto is insular and man, I hate to say it, but the way its firehose "Home" feed works convinced me that you need at least some options to handle post sorting beyond raw chronological. I don't hate it, but if I wanted a social network entirely predicated on arguing about Twitter I'd be on Twitter (and for people in denial about the popularity of their open source alternative we have the Linux forums here, so I'm good there, too).

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[–] wandermind@sopuli.xyz 19 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The Bluesky user experience is lightyears ahead of Mastodon.

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Cool, how do we convinced the Masto devs of this apparent fact?

[–] VinnyDaCat@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

We tried. They ignore the vast majority of feedback given to them.

The Mastodon user experience really needed to be simplified greatly to attract Twitter users, because what's a platform without other users on it to connect to? At this point I feel as if they may have blown their chance.

[–] Supernova1051@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago

anything specific you can call out for those of us who have zero interest in moving to another centralized platform?

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Cuz believe it or not, people tend to use microblogging platforms to connect with others in a specific niche, and mastodon currently doesnt have the userbase to host an account focused on most niches.

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[–] dirthawker0@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

I would love to see more Japanese moving over to Bluesky. I've effectively moved there, but can't really leave Twitter because I follow a lot of Japanese game devs there, and they don't have a strong reason to leave like Americans do.

[–] nullpotential@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 weeks ago

More bluesy ads?

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I’m curious to see what gets promoted in Japan. BlueSky’s discover feed in the US is fairly politics-heavy right now since a lot of the new users have been fleeing X’s MAGA swamp.

I have no problem with political posts, but I’m hungry for some more organic variety. If I want variety I have to put in a lot of manual work to find people and topics to follow.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

It’s similar in JP.

The discover feed isn’t anywhere near the “for you feed” on X, so the experience isn’t super personalised and gravitates towards us politics, as that’s the most popular thing on the platform (similarly to lemmy).

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Lemmy /all is basically memes, tits, and articles about crazy Trump shit.

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[–] shoulderoforion@fedia.io 5 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Remember kids, Jack Dorsey still owns BLUESKY, and if anyone is trying to tell you he doesn't, they're lying.

Dorsey is THE founder of BLUESKY, and is it's largest shareholder, even though he is no longer on the board, and went through the theater of closing his BLUESKY account, he will have the say in pretty much everything, not the least of which, which fascist Elon Musk clone, BLUESKY is sold to, when of course it eventually it will be.

Fool me once.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 43 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Maybe Jack will sell bluesky to elon again for 50b and create another network called "freebird", lol

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

The ultimate grift

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Then definitely get sued by the washed up people still touring as Lynyrd Skynyrd even though none of them are original members

[–] BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Elonite will buy this one too and name it PhoenX

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

Do you have a source for the “largest shareholder” thing? I’m having a hard time finding anything about that.

[–] Virkkunen@fedia.io 18 points 3 weeks ago

This user is spamming the same comments about this on every post about Bluesky and their sources are "trust me bro I hate Jack"

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[–] zoostation@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Fuck off with this unhinged, unsupported rant. Prove it or stop posting it.

[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Bluesky has exactly the same monetization and profitability issues twitter did, if anyone tries to tell you differently they're lying. Sooner or later Bluesky will fatten a sufficient crop of highly engaged users and run out of venture capital runway and be forced to look for someone to buy the platform. There's no way around this.

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[–] nave@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Jack Dorsey still owns BLUESKY, and if anyone is trying to tell you he doesn't, they're lying.

But Mr Dorsey is no longer part of the team behind it, having stepped down from the board in May 2024. He deleted his account altogether in September. It is now run and predominantly owned by chief executive Jay Graber as a US public benefit corporation.

You sure about that?

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[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 3 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

The main problem with BLUESKY is that it's the same regurgitated shit you find everywhere else. As a brand new user here's the first 10 things in my feed:

  1. Someone trying and failing to make a clever joke about the US Presidential election.
  2. A picture of black hole (which is great!)
  3. Semi-clever joke involving Professor X and Alvin and the Chipmunks
  4. Self Described "transfem lesbian" screaming about how much they love women. I mean yikes it's creepy AF.
  5. Boring US Political schlock about Lauren Boebert.
  6. Science / Astronomy content
  7. Video Game Post
  8. Self Described "#1 Gayest Lesbian" screaming about how much they love women. A copypasta of the other and still creepy AF.
  9. Another eye-roller "I am soooo depressed" meme.
  10. Boring US Political schlock defending Dr. Fauchi

So BLUESKY seems to be Twitter v2, primarily inhabited by the Pre-Elon Blue CheckMark types. Can I "fix" that with filtering? Probably but if I do then the feed will slow down so much that even checking in once per day will probably be too often.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Well... Then... Just don't follow those people. My personal feed is 100% artists and scientists. That's the fun part of Bluesky; unlike Twatter, you're not forced to see all the cringe and ragebait.

[–] dirthawker0@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

And you don't have one asshole owner boosting visibility of his own posts and those of accounts he likes, and lowering visibility/shadowbanning those of people he doesn't. The "For You" feed tends to have not stuff you actually enjoy, but things that make you angry.

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[–] win95@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 weeks ago

I use 4 feeds:

  • Following - full control over who I want to see
  • Popular with friends - I use this to find new people since my mutuals are liking these posts
  • Booksky - just everything reading related
  • GameDev - speaks for itself

What I also like better than Twitter is whenever I reply to someone / quote tweet someone but block them after, other people won't be able to see the post anymore. I've noticed (at least for now) that helps a fair bit against pile-ons and rage baiters. Hope it stays that way.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 weeks ago

The main problem with bluesky is not posts that you don't like, it's whatever it's centralized or not.

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What’s up with the multiple account in this thread that refer to BlueSky in all caps? Is this one person spamming from multiple accounts, or is that a thing?

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

The article body originally had it in all caps and once I noticed that I rewrote my comment that way. The article now shows it as "Bluesky" (no capital S) which is apparently the correct way. I dunno wtf is going on.

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[–] drdiddlybadger@pawb.social 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Is this a fresh account that you went to the discover tab on?

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Subscriptionwall.

Same as in subscribe-to-download sites or create-account-to-see-link forums: Do they want dead accounts that much?

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