this post was submitted on 23 Nov 2024
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I for one have stopped posting any content to lemmy.ml communities.

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[–] schwim@lemm.ee 23 points 16 hours ago

I don't think the meme makes sense. The ml users don't seem to care how much other content is out there. They still participate as much as they'd like.

[–] hierophant_nihilant@reddthat.com 41 points 19 hours ago (5 children)

Listen. Just fuckin listen to me. The moment I joined lemmy every enthusiast was singing praise to the fediverse and how it's easy to maintain the freedom of speach and yada yada yada. What it turned out to be is just constant quarrels between instances, defederations and crap like that while lemmy still fucking struggles to even become a mere shadow of reddit. I fucking hate reddit, I think spez should be covered in fire ants, but by god, looking at how insufferable most vocal lemmy users are, I may get back to reddit, probably as many other lemmy users already did.

[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 28 points 17 hours ago

If it helps, most of this inter-instance drama comes from a surprisingly small group of people. I've blocked most of them (looks like I missed the OP here) and it's much quieter now. Looking at my block list, they're mostly from .world, but that could be due to the large population.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 23 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

It is easy to maintain freedom of speech on Lemmy. The idea that your instance can defederate from instances like Lemmy.ml, but everyone on Lemmy.ml can continue to post on their own server, and federate with any other given server by default is the entire point of federation and proof of concept that the fediverse is great for free speech. You’re under the impression that all Lemmy servers are supposed to be part of one big whole, but that’s not what the fediverse is for.

You have to understand that “free speech” is a negative freedom and it doesn’t mean everyone has to listen to you. It just means nobody can force you not to speak.

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 12 hours ago

just constant quarrels between instances, defederations and crap like that

Sounds like you picked the wrong instance. The one I use doesn't defederate, from anyone. So when some drama about "should we defederate from some server because they are a big corp/because they are right wing/because they are tankies/because they allow loli/whatever, I basically get to watch and laugh knowing it's not going to effect me.

[–] falcunculus@jlai.lu 15 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

If you're unhappy why stay? Personally I'm happy with the Lemmyverse as it stands now — certainly happier than in the corporate lowest-common-denominator that is now Reddit.

[–] lseif@sopuli.xyz 7 points 15 hours ago

same logic as "if u hate america then leave".

some people want to do their part to make the site (or country) better. they cant do that by giving up and going back to reddit. lemmy is great....but it could be better.

[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago

The whole point of federation seems to be the ability to have villain instances that we all fight about. PVP social media

[–] TheFrirish@jlai.lu 26 points 21 hours ago (6 children)

https://sh.itjust.works/c/meanwhileongrad

Here is a nice community that keeps track of their bullshit

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[–] mlg@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Another day of .world reddit migrants thinking de-federating or boycotting .ml will change literally anything.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago

It will. It will change which instance they shriek "tankie!" at.

[–] goldenlocks@lemmy.world 11 points 20 hours ago

ml makes sense on the fediverse. That's kind of the whole point. Same with Linux.

[–] coherent_domain@infosec.pub 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (5 children)

I like the idea of growing non-ml community, however, I wish larger instances do not block ML. Otherwise, they would just move to lemmy.ee or lemmy.one, just like how they moved from hexbear and grad to ml.

It is great tankies got their own place where they can be happy, but I really don't want to interact with them. I am emotional about issues they engage in, and emotional me is usually not the nicest version of myself.

Social media is one of the few ways I can relax for couple hours per week outside of my job, and I really don't want my social media experience to go full investigative journalism.

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[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (8 children)

The irony of a community promoting socialism while also instabanning anyone for the slightest wiff of criticism is just chef's kiss peak representation of why their system is doomed.

If you can't withstand the slightest nudge of criticism how are you even going to attempt to provide a governance system based on any kind of economic directive? If Marx could see what you guys have become he'd personally wipe his ass with your lame ml instance

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