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It's Arcane Show based on LoL

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[–] Toes@ani.social 3 points 4 hours ago

Yeah it would be nice if they made an RPG like cyberpunk. The traditional 5v5 moba genre is just no fun for casual play.

They had a 3v3 mode that was ok and a big circle map that was cool. I've been informed that's all gone now. Now the only fun mode left is ARAM.

Heroes of the storm fixed almost everything I didn't like about League and Dota. Except we need a 3v3 mode with two lanes. Keep all the minigame mechanics, joint leveling and lack of creep denials and you'd be on your way to a more enjoyable casual experience.

[–] needthosepylons@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Honestly, if you stick to ARAM and a few casual SR, it's way better than a few years ago. Less toxicity, even fairly friendly games.

Ranked ? Nevermore.

[–] FoxFairline@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Very fitting meme if you remember the harrasement scandal at riot a few years back.

[–] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 27 points 19 hours ago (7 children)

If you abbreviate League of Legends LoL, how do you abbreviate CyberPunk?

[–] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 21 points 16 hours ago

cp2077, officially.

[–] Martineski@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 16 hours ago

Personally I type "cp77" when in convo with friends.

[–] jherazob@beehaw.org 8 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

You don't

[–] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 14 hours ago

Hello, human resources???

[–] apotheotic@beehaw.org 5 points 17 hours ago

C2077 since Cyberpunk is one word

[–] OwlPaste@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago

CPR

[–] 0laura@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

CyPu

[–] srestegosaurio@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 18 hours ago (5 children)

How can the game be so bad yet the things surrounding it so good?

[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

Arcane was a marketing scheme, they didn't invest in there to gain money, was to attract players, they needed it to be a good show, that's what i think

[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

The game is good, if you try hard it you go insane tho because you depende in 4 other people to do their part, and it's 30min of suferring and losing feel so much worse(that's why dota with 1 hour is event more toxic, and league of legends mobile is less because the game is simpler and 10 min long and a lot less try-hard), dota has a lower time match option too

[–] Sabata11792@ani.social 12 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

The game is mechanically great.

The player base is so wretched and vile that it made me uninstall Windows so I will never be tempted again.

The porn is also good.

[–] srestegosaurio@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 hours ago

Fair take, I agree.

[–] slumlordthanatos@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

Every time I get the itch to play again, I go and look up the newest champion and cringe at how bad the power creep has gotten.

Ambessa is just thicc Riven, but better.

[–] SleepyPie@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

You can mute the chat now. You should be extra tempted by the superior mobile version Wild Rift. The controls feel like they’re meant to be a twin stick shooter, and piloting a champ is much more satisfying that way

[–] Sabata11792@ani.social 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I won't go back.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Haha I'm right there with you. It's like someone going "Hey, remember when you used to do heroin and hate yourself? I know you've gone to rehab and cleaned yourself up, but wanna try this new Heroin-Lite?"

[–] inlandempire@jlai.lu 24 points 18 hours ago

Riot works on their game

Then they throw money at other - actually competent - studios to work on side content

[–] Mirror Giraffe@piefed.social 9 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

The game itself is good. It's more a problem that 5 random kids are supposed to cooperate against five other random kids and many of them would be better off playing single player games where they can't blame others for their mistakes.

With that said, I feel flaming is less now than a few years ago.

[–] Halosheep@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago

The flamers have just moved to deadlock it seems.

[–] srestegosaurio@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 hours ago

Good to know flaming is going down.

[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 3 points 15 hours ago

Yeah playing with organized teams is so much better than soloQ. The entire game revolves around teamwork but then they throw 5 randos together with no voice chat and it's just an incubator for frustration.

Flaming is probably less now because the game is getting kinda old and people don't take it as seriously anymore. I haven't played in several years so idk.

[–] JPAKx4@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 13 hours ago

Cmon, League isn't that bad. I'm only a little more racist and a lot gayer than I used to be

[–] hitagi@ani.social 6 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

There's a wave of casuals playing League of Legends again which I think is nice. Over the past years, Riot was struggling to get new players to play because of how complex MOBAs are and people getting completely stomped by smurfs. I guess the solution was Worlds and Arcane lol (and all the little new player things they added).

[–] dwindling7373@feddit.it 5 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

I don't know the current status of League onboarding but as a veteran I attempted and accompanied various people throught it in the years and it's been painfully, criminally bad for the longest time. Both when there was nothing but the weekly free rotation to pick from and haveing to sink a month of grinding to get a single champ, till the more recent "we gift you a champ every 2 levels so you can actually play the game".

I think it used (still does?) to boil down to the delicate balance of:

  1. the attrition of the early grind is the easiest to monetyze

  2. the need for new players to keep the game alive

  3. the miracolous success of the game making no changes better than changing something and finding out you inadvertedly sapped the magic out of it.

[–] Gutek8134@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago

Since most people haven't played DOTA 2, I'm here to inform you you have access to all the heroes from the get go

(It also has tutorial better by two orders of magnitude)

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago

LoL

[–] SleepyPie@lemmy.world 0 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

League of Legends is genuinely great, and Wild Rift is even better! I highly recommend them.

ARAM (All Random All Mid mode) in LoL is hilarious and a great way to learn how to play

[–] PraiseTheSoup@lemm.ee 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

League of Legends is just DotA with all the thinking removed in the same way that Skyrim is just Morrowind with all the thinking removed.

[–] SleepyPie@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

Firm disagree. League is more streamlined than DOTA, and this is actually more interesting IMO.

For example the dance of trading and last hitting has enough depth that we don’t need denying to make things exciting. This allows us to focus more carefully on the variation involved with trading well without arbitrarily raising the skill ceiling.

I don’t doubt some people enjoy the third layer DOTA adds, it’s just that I feel League allows people to focus more of what is fun in MOBAs rather than being an unending knowledge check.

Wild Rift is even better for refining the genre further. For something obviously too simplified you could point to ML:BB, but Wild Rift is noticeably on a whole other level. There really is a sweet spot and I think it’s closer to League than DOTA.