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[–] gnomesaiyan@lemmy.world 84 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I love how no one in the comments specifically mentions his name, like he's fucking Voldemort or something.

Jensen Huang!

gasps

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago

Oh, so this is about NVidia and its CEO. Thanks.

Yeah, he has been pissing everybody for quite a long time already. People still buy the things he sells...

[–] JohnOliver@feddit.dk 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

How about the majority of comments asking what this means, and nobody answering?

[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Jensen ImgonnaridethisAIhypertraintothefuckingmoon Huang

[–] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The only Jensen I’m a fan of is Dani.

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] gnomesaiyan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Don't forget Jensen Ackles!

[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 69 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 73 points 1 month ago (2 children)

CEO of a company that makes the computer part that is most important for gamers. He has a net worth of about 100 billion USD

Their products are currently better than the competition and they make full use of their position.

They are known for very high prices, scummy marketing tricks, and abusing their small business partners.

The company briefly overtook Apple and Microsoft, becoming the most valuable company at around 3 trillion USD.

[–] trespasser69@lemmy.world 59 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The company briefly overtook Apple and Microsoft, becoming the most valuable company at around 3 trillion USD.

Because of AI hype

[–] ShadowRam@fedia.io 36 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's not all hype.

nVidia has some SERIOUS R&D in the use of AI for the past 10 years.

But using AI in the graphic space... upscaling, downscaling, faking lighting, faking physics.. This is all very useful in making videogames.

Then there was a leap in the way AI Image generation was done with the above hardware. And that opened up a whole new growing field.

It's just some people took basic language models that have been around for 30 years and scaled them up with their hardware. And it was neat, and surprising some of the stuff a LLM would output. But not reliable.

And then suddenly a lot of layman's got their hand on the LLM's and thought it was the 2nd coming of Jesus, and started throwing big money at it.. it will be surprise to no one who knows how these AI's work that that big money isn't going anywhere.

But those first two, is no hype. It's a real viable use case for the AI, and money will be made there.

[–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Youre missing a lot of events in that timeline tbh :p
Nvidia forcing developers to use cuda enabled hardware, hard locking their tech to their hardware, the crypto boom of 2016 and 2020, ...

Theyve done a lot of stuff to gamers and datacenters over the past years that made them as powerful as they were when gpt3 hit the public eye.

Me? Im stearing far far away from them. I dont support that business at all.

[–] ShadowRam@fedia.io 9 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I'm not defending nVidia's business practices at all.

My point is the 'AI' hype isn't hype.

There's real value added AI work being done outside of the ChatGPT LLM thing going on.

[–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Im not saying you are defending them, youre just missing a lot of stuff that happened around ai and nvidia in your comment and whatever genai we have now isnt all because of nvidia. That its locked to nvidia is because of what they did before ai hit public eyes.
Current genAI also has not much to do with nvidia besides programs being based on cuda which uses nvidia's tensor cores for neural processing. From a technical standpoint, nothing ai has to do with nvidia, they just played smart ( and unfair ).

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[–] RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago

But the insane growth is because of hype. Doesn't mean it's useless or makes it invalid, but they would nowhere be this big if it wasn't for the AI gold rush going on with all of their data centre cards being sold out immediately despite 50x profit margins and such.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Their products are currently better than the competition

If you want just a GPU, no they aren't really better.

They have some different strengths, so they may fit some use-cases better, but they aren't out-right better.

[–] CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

There isn't even competition for the 4090, what are you talking about?

[–] oce@jlai.lu 40 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Co-founder and CEO of Nvidia.

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 42 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Okay and for those of us not keeping up with the news, why/how did he insult its own userbase?

[–] credo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Since this is about AI, I asked an AI. Bottom line is.. I have no idea and the AI doesn’t either:

How did the CEO of Nvidia insult gamers, artists, and Linux users?

NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang has made several statements that have been perceived as dismissive or controversial by gamers, artists, and Linux users:

Gamers:

In January 2019, Huang criticized AMD’s Radeon VII graphics card, calling it “underwhelming” and “lousy.” He stated, “The performance is lousy and there’s nothing new… [There’s] no ray tracing, no AI.” Such remarks were seen by some gamers as dismissive of competing products and their user base.

[okay?]

Artists:

In January 2024, NVIDIA showcased its ACE microservice, an AI suite capable of generating fully voiced AI characters. This demonstration raised concerns among artists about the potential for AI to replace human creativity and jobs in the industry. While Huang did not directly insult artists, the promotion of such technology led to apprehension regarding the future role of human artists.

[I guess he made a demo of technology?]

Linux Users:

In June 2012, Linus Torvalds, the creator of Linux, publicly criticized NVIDIA for its lack of support for Linux, calling the company “the single worst company we’ve ever dealt with.” He expressed frustration over NVIDIA’s unwillingness to support Linux systems, which was a significant concern for Linux users relying on NVIDIA hardware.

[It seems we are factoring in a lifetime of resentment. (But I agree)]

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[–] Boxscape@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Who is he what did he do?

I read this in Detective John Kimble's voice.
U noe?

[–] foiledAgain@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

He Is a tumaaah … on the IT industry

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 53 points 1 month ago (2 children)

All of which keep buying his products...

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

People buy Nvidia no matter what. Even when they aren't the best choice. Then those same people complain about Nvidia doing the anticompetitive things they do.

The best is when people cheer for AMD making something great, only so they can buy an Nvidia card cheaper, as if the only reason AMD exists is to subsidise their Nvidia purchase!

Nvidia's greatest asset is the mindshare they have.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Well that and CUDA still means a load of professionals in various fields are stuck using Nvidia whether they like it or not. This means data centers are incentivised to go with Nvidia if they want those customers, which ultimately means if someone gonna work on code/tools that run in those data centers, you want the same architecture on your local machine for development and testing.

It's getting better, but the gap is still real. Hopefully the guys that are working on SCALE can actually get it working on the CDNA GPUs one day, since data centers are where a lot of the CUDA is running or perhaps the UDNA stuff AMD just announced will enable this.

The fact this is all hinging on the third party that develops SCALE, should highlight that AMD still doesn't seem to be playing the same game as Nvidia, which is why we're still in this position.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Definitely. CUDA has had a long headstart, and Nvidia were very clever in getting it entrenched early on, particularly in universities and such. It's also just... generally does the job.

My above comment was purely on the gaming side

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[–] atro_city@fedia.io 13 points 1 month ago

100%

"I want change!"

*Doesn't do anything to change*

"Why hasn't anything changed?"

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[–] NeilBru@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The linear algebraic computations performed on their GPU's tensor cores (since the Turing era) combined with their CUDA and cuDNN software stack have the fastest performance in training deep neural network algorithms.

That may not last forever, but it's the best in terms of dollars per TOPS an average DNN developer like myself has access to currently.

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Apparently nothing OP cannot say a single thing.

[–] Hellmo_Luciferrari@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Not OP, but he's a billionaire. There is no such thing as an ethical billionaire. No amount of work they have done would earn billions.

[–] jerakor@startrek.website 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Not really his fault he is a billionaire. He was an immigrant kid who washed dishes and bused tables til he went to college. He worked his way up and started one of the most successful companies in the world.

You can hate the system but you don't need to hate every person in it.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 25 points 1 month ago

What's nVidia doing now?

[–] comador@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

Still not as bad as Hack Tran (CEO of: Broadcom/Vmware/CA/Symantec/Brocade), but close.

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 14 points 1 month ago

What did Jensen Huang do this time?

[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Is the leather motorcycle jacket part of his Jobsian uniform now?

[–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago

Has been for years.

[–] jaxxed@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

I believe that the shareholders are quite happy?

[–] b0gl@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

You guys have phones right?

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